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jjones16


Oct 19, 2011, 8:12 PM

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Re: [donwanadi] Backup an ATC Belayer
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donwanadi wrote:
jjones16 wrote:
donwanadi wrote:
Currently we are just top roping but I am twice my girlfriend's weight (whew! =P) and worry about her ability to catch a fall, esp a lead fall. I have her using a GRIGRI2 now but if I were to get into leading that won't be very efficient.

In hopes of getting you a better more informed response, I would humbly suggest that you clarify your question and maybe break each part down into more readily and easily understood portions so that people might digest it better and be able to offer more concise advice.

Your information is somewhat conflicting. In the quote above, you say that you're top-roping but you're worried about her catching a lead fall. You then question the efficiency of a device for leading when that's what the device was designed for.

I'll tell you like someone told me. If you don't have your shit wired tight, and come in these forums with blanket statements that are conflicting and incorrect, you're gonna get hammered no matter what your original intentions were, or whether or not you truly deserve it. That's just the way it is.

Now, from my experience, if you're just top-roping, you can anchor your woman in somehow, and that should help. Even so, she needs to be aware of the forces that will be put on her in a fall. If she's half your weight, she probably will leave the ground- even in a top rope fall. She should be prepared for this when it happens.

You're on the right track with being concerned about safety and asking questions. You just seem a little misinformed. If you get the majority of your info from other climbers, especially ones that are relatively new to the sport, you're going to be misled. Do some research yourself from as many different credible sources as possible to gain a better understanding of the processes and techniques involved in SAFELY enjoying your desired discipline of climbing. You'll be glad you did, plus, it'll keep you from getting flogged by anti-noob veteran climbers that don't have much patience for misinformation. That's my two cents. Hope it helps.

I see your point. I know the difference between a top roped and a lead fall. Currently, I am top roping. Ultimately, I intend to move on to sport leading and then trad leading multiple pitches. If that was not clear from my original post, it is now.

Accidents can happen top roping as well. That is why I am seeking out information from those more experienced than me. I do not consider it a replacement for research.

Butt-hurt know it all ass clowns are not new to me. They are on every forum. Frequently, they are Google searching everything typed in order to appear brilliant. Everyone is fooled....

Well, perhaps. Believe me, as your newfound friend cracklover can attest, I recently found myself in the same situation as you. Although you will feel the natural inclination to become defensive, as anyone would, it will be counter-productive. Consider that your original purpose in coming here was to gain information. If you can shrug off the cynicism of the more experienced, and concede that you're incorrect, then you can accomplish your original goal. Short of being told that you're absolutely clueless and to simply shut the fuck up, you should be able to do that. Just a thought.

*edited 'cause I'm a tardo that can't write the English.


(This post was edited by jjones16 on Oct 19, 2011, 8:14 PM)



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