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styndall


Mar 1, 2012, 2:06 AM

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Re: [hobgoblin11] First African American to climb Denali?
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hobgoblin11 wrote:
happiegrrrl wrote:
hobgoblin11 wrote:
... this race-card bullshit being played out. Thats why I object to the question.

Could you please explain to me how asking the question "Does anyone out there know who the first African American to climb Denali (Mt. McKinley) was?" is "race0card bullshit?" This is a serious question, as I am trying to understand where your mind is at.

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Quite simply put.. because this is, was and always will be a cultural and socioeconomic issue.. not a racial issue.

Racism is unique to cultures not peoples. As are socioeconimic problems.. to imply that every white man was a racist in 1964 or every black man was some oppressed down trodden minority makes one no better than they people they accuse.

What was the assumption here..? That there as a group of KKK down at base camp.. chewing on his ropes? Or a burning cross waiting for him at the top. Or that people refused to help him climb because of his skin color? Denali is rugged and difficult now.. that land and its people are difficult and rugged.. and have little time for nuances like racism. People who climb mountains and those who support them have little time for such nuances... and if even they do they would be quickly dispelled when your lives are in each others hands.

Climbing Denali.. or ANY mountain is a an incredible feat for ANY man.. dont belittle it by bringing the color of ones skin into a place where it simply doesnt bleong.

ANY difficuly endeavor is performed through perseverance and character.. not through melanin count.

If he climbed Denali... its because he was a great man not because he was a great black man



and when the day comes that whites are the minority and I'm afforded the honor to be the first to perform something incredible.. I REALLY hope people would remember me for being the first
man to accomplish it.. not the first white man


Why does this get you so angry? Can you just not acknowledge that African Americans are really under-represented in the American climbing community, and that recognizing African-American achievements in climbing might inspire greater minority participation? Indeed, that seeing an African-American dude summit some high mountains might show minority kids that they can have the opportunity to do something incredible like that, if they work at it?

Do you also object to people recording women's ascents or publicizing women completing hard climbs?


(This post was edited by styndall on Mar 1, 2012, 2:06 AM)



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