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bearbreeder
Apr 18, 2012, 9:15 AM
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im saying that im not going off about metollius 0 and 00 cams being "unsafe" despite quite a few camstop failures ... as referenced in the MP thread, some by climbers that seem pretty experienced ....
ive freely admitted that its possible my TCU placement failed, even though it was placed with the lobes well within the range
perhaps a quote from MP from someone who also posts here and blew a similar cam says it best ... apologies to mister williams for the cross post ...
Yea, I think there is really no way to tell exactly what happened, and there is no way for me to prove to the internet that I placed the cam well. I know I did, that's about all I need to say.
perhaps youd like to comment mr patto on yr experience with owning and falling on the 0 and 00 Metollius ...
it would be quite valuable if you could shed some insight into why cam stops are breaking on them without people supposedly weighting them such as ...
Not sure how this happened. This #0 rarely gets placed and has never been hung on or taken a single fall, but one of the cam stops has completely sheared off the lobe. The spring has also been displaced on the axle which has affected the lobe's retraction. Has anyone else experienced similar damage with their Mastercams? If so, how was Metolius in providing service/replacement?
or this post by mr herrington ...
I also climbed on a purple mastercam that had a snapped-off cam stop.
The cam stops on Master Cams are necessary for the cam to work in any mode. The spring curls around the cam stop and without it in place, there is no spring tension.
It was on a friend's rack we were using for the day, the piece was quite new, and he said he couldn't figure out how it had broken since he hadn't weighted the piece yet.
I didn't realize that cam was broken until I went to place it and noticed that half of the lobes didn't expand after I pulled the trigger.
and a few more ...
Notice in your photo how the groove in the cam face intersects the cam stop resulting in that much less metal at an already small protrusion. This only occurs on the purple cam and seems easily rectified. I've broken two both times simply wiggling them out of tight placements. Frustrating though gladly replaced by Metolius.
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I recently had a cam stop failure on my purple master cam as well. It was bought when the master cams first came out. The good folks at rock and snow got on the horn with metolius they sent them some pics of the cam stop/heads and i got a new cam. The new lobes are the major difference. The lobes are now smooth. According to metolius the grooved lobes weakened the milled stop and was a design weakness effecting both the purple and grey.
which i assume are all "placement" failures ... im sure all the RC experts such as yourselves can can explain all this ...
or failing that back to the original point of the thread .... yr experiences on owning and falling on link cams 
(This post was edited by bearbreeder on Apr 18, 2012, 9:24 AM)
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