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Re: [NEGuiding] The webbing vs static rope tope rope set up debate:
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ncrockclimber
May 2, 2012, 8:06 PM
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NEGuiding wrote: So I'd like to apologize for some misunderstandings and misconstruing in this thread. My own opinion and personal preference to choose static line over webbing is from personal guiding and rescue experience in the crags where my company guides in and trains in. The rock type we have at hand is very abrasive so extending anchors with webbing is not the best and safest option. My professional opinion. To clear a couple other things up, I market, host and sell PCGI courses for approved East coast providers/mentors and I do NOT directly teach these courses. PCGI does NOT frown upon webbing. I am a Board of Directors member for PCGI, hence I am part of the team on a busness level and NOT on a technical development or educational level. I am not a certified PCGI guide. The reasons why I don't use it nor do any of my guides is clearly stated above. So again, I apologize for any misunderstandings on this issue and just stress to choose the right material for the right application when extending top rope anchors. That is my opinion and NOT the opinions of PCGI. Unfortunately this thread was blown way out of proportion for various reasons which some were mine by not making myself clear enough and getting angry at some of the posters in here who seem to enjoy picking things apart in an argumentative manner. Again, my mistake for not making myself clear. I hope this is read over correctly and I made my point/opinion showing that it is NOT something PCGI supports. Thanks, Joey
Joey Vulpis of Northeast Mountain Guiding, I read through your post above. Notably missing is any reference to the claims you made regarding the CCC. Among other things, you stated that "They have no concern about climbing safety."
You seem under the impression that the "misunderstandings" on this thread are just centered around webbing vs static line. I do not believe that is the case. This is about, you, an industry professional, making obviously erroneous statements about materials and techniques. It is about you making claims that you cannot support, then deleting or editing posts to cast yourself in a better light. It is about you maligning other guide services and a volunteer organization with a substantial history of service to the NC climbing community. It is about you misrepresenting both your qualifications and the techniques taught by an organization where you are a board member. It is about you trying to turn a tragedy into an opportunity for you to grow your business.
With all that in mind, I find your apology to be much less than satisfactory.
I sincerely hope that the other members of the PCGI board and its executive leadership are reading this. As I said in an earlier post, I was not familiar with the PCGI before this thread. I think that it is completely appropriate to evaluate an organization based on the people it selects to sit on its board of directors. Based on the statements made by Joey Vulpis, I have a very negative impression of the PCGI and the "new fully trusted methods" that they teach.
edit for grammar and clarity.
(This post was edited by ncrockclimber on May 2, 2012, 8:21 PM)
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Post edited by ncrockclimber
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