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billcoe_


May 7, 2012, 2:14 AM

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Re: [tomcat] Webbing, Static and AMGA Certification
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tomcat wrote:
I am, I'm suggesting a dynamic rope is entirely adequete for toprope anchor building of any sort. Are you suggesting otherwise?

The man is discussing usage for a course of novices in a professional setting, everything he says is spot on the money correct. For myself, like you I use dynamic rope pieces personally all the time, it works great: along with slings of all sorts and age. I mark my sewn runners with the years I've bought them, and use as old as 1990 in my top rope setups. (Hey, if it's in triplicate and all bomber, it's good.) They are my old retired and chopped up lead ropes. You would never use old stuff like that in a professional setting, although it is otherwise 100% fine in practice, you just don't.

I agree with both Healyj and Curt though, a GOOD mentor (good is the operative word, trumps all. Yet an AGMA guide will guarantee that a systemically organized course was followed and learned, ie, that the skill you need is there. Doesn't say or suggest anything about attitude of course.



socalclimber wrote:
What an incredible crock of shit this is....

You're wrong. It's spot on.

adamfox wrote:
static rope is user friendly and gives the individual more options, i.e. I can create anchoring systems using basis knots which can be adjusted and will be easy to untie after loading.

TRUE try adjusting a cinched clove hitch on 1" tubular, different game.
adamfox wrote:
Also, I can create a tether line with static rope and also use a GriGri on this line if need be which I could not do with webbing.

Exactly!

adamfox wrote:
So in an instructional setting these are options that I need and I’m looking for. Recreationally I might not need a tether line to be alongside a novice rappeller while I coach them over the edge.
On the money.

adamfox wrote:
So it comes down to application of the right tools in the right place. We teach and use static/semi static rope in the AMGA Single Pitch Instructor Program as it’s elegant, efficient and gives the instructor options.

Well spoken.

To the father with a 14 year old boy. THIS is your answer: http://www.mazamas.org/ Seriously. Climbing is damned dangerous, but if you can't find a mentor, this is the place. Be aware that it will still be dangerous for you son, just less so. He can still do everything right and still die.


(This post was edited by billcoe_ on May 7, 2012, 2:20 AM)



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