Anyway, Nikon huh? Well, a wise man once told me, "son, sometimes masterbation is fun, it kills time and makes you happy. Sometimes though, masterbation prooves to be more trouble than it's worth and you wind up getting interupted and never get to finish."

I'm not totally sure what he was trying to say but I think it might apply to the OP's queery. I have the answer...don't waste your time with masterbation. Go with Canon.

Why some don't use Canon, is a mystery to me.

Those three links work about as well as your website and your logic.

As for Nikon producing white lenses, I had not heard that before, so it looks like I could be wrong by basing my numbers on white lenses. However, I checked a few Nikon sites, Canada, the US, Mexico, a few European sites and found not one single solitary white lens. A few silver lenses, but no white lenses. So if someone can point me to a Nikon hosted image of a white Nikon lens...I'll eat my words.

thanks for the info, i have another question, i have largish hands and the canon xt feels small in my hands (as compared to the d50), has anyone else had that problem or is it just somthing you get used to and come to appriciate?

I bet you went there to try to find garbage shots to cut me down with, huh?

I'm saying "Canon works for the majority" so you should consider that." I'm looking at the bigger picture.

So if someone can point me to a Nikon hosted image of a white Nikon lens...I'll eat my words.

just trying to see if the person that has diarrhea of the mouth has good work to back it up. At least then I might consider what you were saying to have some validity.

I still think brand bashing is lame.

I'm saying "Canon works for the majority" so you should consider that." I'm looking at the bigger picture.

You didn't say (like I did) that you should also consider Canon, you said "Go with Canon".

So if someone can point me to a Nikon hosted image of a white Nikon lens...I'll eat my words.

I think he's talking about the import version:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/images/largeimages/278173.jpg

Yes, I have a small penis...how incredably intuitive of you. As far as brand bashing being lame...yes it is. That's why I base my opinions on FACT. I'm not bashing Nikon or any other brand. I'm simply praising Canon.

Lets take a look into the real world shall we?

Just for shits and giggles, lets count the number of cameras in this image and then count how many of them are Canon. I'll save you the trouble. 79 cameras, 53 obvious big white lenses and how many of the small black lenses are Canon as well? That's minimum 67% Canon.
http://k47.pbase.com/...23.Man100MFinals.jpg

How about this one, its easier to count...33 cameras, 28 are Canon. That's 85% Canon.
http://k41.pbase.com/...6.Man100MFinals2.jpg

Here's a good one...13 lenses, 10 are Canon. That's 76% Canon.
http://k43.pbase.com/.../33066625.Canoe2.jpg

One of my pet peeves is when people get into the Canon vs Nikon bullshit without actually presenting any evidence to back up their opinions. I shoot with Canon because I started with Nikon and outgrew it quickly. Then I did a shit load of research and found that the Canon system puts all others to shame by comparison. The vast majority of PRO PHOTOGRAPHERS are Canon users. Do you suppose there's a reason for that, or is it just a crazy, happy coincidence? Pro's earn their living by their camera. Proof Positive. Why some don't use Canon, is a mystery to me.

Cost really isn't an issue here. All of the manufacturers have entry level models around the same price point. Even "pro-sumer" models share similar price point among manufacturers. So, "buy what you can afford" is pretty useless advice when someone asks for help concerning BRAND.

Let me close by saying this...When you start looking to buy an SLR, you aren't just buying into a name or a look or a market segment. You're buying into a SYSTEM. And dont give me any shit about the best system depends on the individual. If a half-ass system is good enough for you, then by all means go for it.

Just let me know when you switch to Canon. I'll buy you a beer and I won't rub it in.

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So, if my work blows, then I'm wrong. If it's good, then I'm slightly less that wrong? And you called MY logic into question?

You must be a boulderer, no?

*sigh* Well, since we're taking things so literally 'round here these days I'll re-phrase that...I think that Canon should be considered as a viable alternative amonst other, such esteemed choices. There, how's that?

It's been nice fishing with you, merock. There's always a biter in every thread. Well, the weekends over. Back to reality.

second on rockwell's website. some one on this site recomended it, forget who, and it was AMAZING especially for a camera noob like me.

I think the biggest thing you should think about with these two cameras is that they are already falling out of the realm of what is starting become the standard 10mp and up family of cameras, even in the low end consumer range. That's not to say that these cameras are not good but with digital you kinda have to think long term.

Jason

I wouldn't waste your money with the Pentax.

I say this as a pro photog who has been through the hoops when it came to choosing a system that worked best for me, and that I could grow on. Canon is the best option. More lenses, more accessories, the latest in innovation and has decent support. Nikon is close, but they are always behind on the development curve and dont offer quite the lens selection (still good though and Nikons do get the job done).

Pentax has made some fun cameras in the past, but don't go buying into a system that has no lens support. SURE you have those old K1000 lenses kickin', but what are they worth? not much. Also keep in mind that the old K mounts are not AF (unless KAF). After you invest a few grand in bodies and lenses you will like knowing that the mount and system will be around for awhile, and not end up in the bin like the Kodak and Fuji SLR's of yesterdays past.

Have fun with whatever system you choose. Do your homework and don't let a salesman sell you on a camera hes just trying to get off his shelf.

Just let me know when you switch to Canon. I'll buy you a beer and I won't rub it in.

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Another white lense for you
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/...e=categoryNavigation

to follow up, i ended up getting the nikon d50 w/the standard 18-55 lens for christmas.