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flamer
Aug 7, 2004, 11:52 PM
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In reply to: Coylec you are hoplessly lost. quite possibly a moron and an a$$.
Hey blow hard,
The only person I've seen be a real jerk from the start was you.
Statement's like this make YOU look like the moron.
I'm sorry that not everyone agree's with you.
At your age I'd think you'd have figured this out by now....
CHILL!!
josh
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tradmanclimbs
Aug 8, 2004, 1:18 AM
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Ok, so i am an ass. It certainly would seem that way since i got so heavily involved in a hypothetical argument. I deserve to get slammed on that one. The thing that gets me is that nobody would do what we are argueing about. We all seem to agree that it wouldn't make sense given the scenario of a good practice aid climb near by. A few people feel adamant that regardless of weather or not it is good form or how many people it afects that the first come first serve rule, over rules everything. I don't buy that. there is A whole passel of unwritten climbing rules that afect all the diferent styles of climbing. Most if not all of those rules get bent or broken on a daily basis. Most often the rules get bent because the situation does not fit the rule. Honestly, I am not this combative in person. I just get sucked into the fight on the screen.
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flamer
Aug 8, 2004, 5:27 PM
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In reply to: Ok, so i am an ass. It certainly would seem that way since i got so heavily involved in a hypothetical argument. I deserve to get slammed on that one. The thing that gets me is that nobody would do what we are argueing about. We all seem to agree that it wouldn't make sense given the scenario of a good practice aid climb near by. A few people feel adamant that regardless of weather or not it is good form or how many people it afects that the first come first serve rule, over rules everything. I don't buy that. there is A whole passel of unwritten climbing rules that afect all the diferent styles of climbing. Most if not all of those rules get bent or broken on a daily basis. Most often the rules get bent because the situation does not fit the rule. Honestly, I am not this combative in person. I just get sucked into the fight on the screen.
Good stuff my friend.
josh
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coylec
Aug 8, 2004, 6:59 PM
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In reply to: Ok, so i am an ass. It certainly would seem that way since i got so heavily involved in a hypothetical argument.
In reply to: The thing that gets me is that nobody would do what we are argueing about.
yep.
In reply to: We all seem to agree that it wouldn't make sense given the scenario of a good practice aid climb near by. A few people feel adamant that regardless of weather or not it is good form or how many people it afects that the first come first serve rule, over rules everything. I don't buy that.
You're an inconsiderate jerk if tie up a line like that, regardless of the reason (it's like a bad SCUS decision when the Court is divided: concur in the result, but not the reasoning). I think we can agree on that.
In reply to: there is A whole passel of unwritten climbing rules that afect all the diferent styles of climbing. Most if not all of those rules get bent or broken on a daily basis. Most often the rules get bent because the situation does not fit the rule.
Yep, which is why this discussion is interesting.
In reply to: Honestly, I am not this combative in person. I just get sucked into the fight on the screen.
It's cool - arguing is fun. You ever make it out west coast, we'll go do some trad. And, if I ever make it out to VT, we'll go find us a classic 5.7 and spend all day aiding it :wink: .
coylec
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areyoumydude
Aug 8, 2004, 7:48 PM
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A climbers worst enemy is other climbers. :evil:
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tradmanclimbs
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I went back and re read the post that I ended up deleteing last night and it was so bad I actualy lost sleep over it :shock: Sometimes the fingers fly accross the keyboard and you think that you are spitting out somthing creative and rad, you hit send and move on to the next thread without realizeing that what you just sprayed was just freaking horrible :roll: On a lighter note. Any of you guys ever find yourself in the east I am about 2 hours from cannon. 1.25 hrs from Rumny.( i like cannon better) Also great single pitch cragging , trad and mixed 5.4 -5.11 local. Cool place to crash if you are passing through. Ps. In case you haven't heard of it, Cannon is a real cliff, 600 to 1200ft evrything from 5.6 to A4. Nick
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twoliter
Aug 10, 2004, 5:39 PM
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First come first serve if your fast, slow aiders on classic aid climbs is bad enough, slow aid climbers on popular routes is even worse. That said I do alot of aid climbing at a local "popular" crag and will aid any line I want to and never have gotten any flack about it. That said I would never aid some popular free climb at smith and would expect to get it between the eyes if I did.
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