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Jul 20, 2005, 6:43 PM
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Yes, and about 105 degrees.


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wow..muskie...very detailed..thatnks for your time.

yeah I might take her up royal arches but now that i think about it after 6 might be all the climbing she needs...I don't want it to be tedious and too long..just long enough to be an experience and fun as well.!!! thanks guys.

that snake dike description really makes me want to get to it someday..I have heard some people mention a full moon free solo..how cool is that!!


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Jul 20, 2005, 6:48 PM
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thanks for the input...I am not worried about snake dike at all as goes my leading it. The exposure could definitely be an issure for her and if it is so exposed then I will steer her towards something else. Thanks for your help it is greatly appreciated.

Any other suggestions for really good( cause I have to climb it too) but really easy climbs in the valley... I think I am definitely going to take her up "after 6"....anything else??

After 6 might be too tricky for someone who has never climbed before. Have you led it before? The crack can be slick in places, and for someone who has never crack climbed before, she will definitely have a hard time. For sure not a good introductory climb in Yosemite. I have been told, and I probably agree with this, that After 6 is the hardest 5.7 in the Valley.

well i soloed after 6, after 7, and nutcracker...so its not a problem for me...as far as after 6 being the hardest 5.7 in the valley I would have to disagree... I thought it was very very easy...it took about 20-30 minitues to climb the whole thing..

I know she could get up that with some help along the way...


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Jul 20, 2005, 6:50 PM
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Dam a full moon solo sounds awsome. Well reguardless of what you do, enjoy. Wish I was out there myself.


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I am still inclined to think that if she has never climbed before, much less climbed cracks, she will be having a tough time on After 6. Jamming isn't easy for people who have never climbed before, and a 5.7 hand crack might not be the best option for a first climb.


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Personally, I don't know how shakylegs can recommend any long, classic route. She's NEVER climbed before.

Do any of you like the idea of being stuck behind them as the sun starts to drop. Those are crowded classic climbs, come on, think of others. Why put that kind of pressure on a beginner? People yelling and passing, all that kind of fuss.

Like the cow idea, and definately do the grack center and left which are right there, awesome 5.6/5.7's for her to take a shot at and if it dosn't work for her, its like a no fault divorce. No harm, no foul, no sweat, no pressure - you're back in the lodge drinking and laughing without ruining 20 other peoples trip and the bad mojo they would toss your way for doing it.

Also, highly recommend you take her out to the Knob Hill area, couple of real nice, shorter, easier routes for her there as well.

Have some fun!


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Jul 20, 2005, 7:09 PM
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Personally, I don't know how shakylegs can recommend any long, classic route. She's NEVER climbed before.

Hey, look, just flying over your head. Ah, you missed it. It's called sarcasm.
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There are two aspects worth considering, which have already been discussed. One is the approach. If your Girlfriend is an experienced hiker or in great shape, she might enjoy it as a work out. If she is not in shape or use to exposure and very physically demanding scrambling forget it. If she passes muster here, as mentioned, the idea of climbing with friction must be understood by her. The first 2 pitches require friction moves. The runouts don't matter if you're leading (I found the runouts no big deal). Although again, as mentioned, there is a traverse on the 1st & 2nd pitches that could affect the second. I found over time that taking a girlfriend (or anyone)on a climb over his or her head rarely is a good idea.


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I agree with several posters, take her up something with a shorter approach that is easier that she can enjoy. Snake Dike is a fun climb but long approach, exposure and long descent. I don't mean to offend you but Church Bowl, Manure Pile or even Swan Slab may be more appropriate - at least for the first day out.


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you should go to hogsback at Lovers Leap. 15 min. hike from camp to the climbs. Lots of 5.5 -5.7 climbs. The climbs arn't that long also, about 2-4 pitches depending on the length of your rope. Lots of places to put pro in. It's just outside of South Lake tahoe. I went there last weekend and it was excellent. it's a great introduction to multipitch climbing


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Check it out! A guy wants to winch his non-climber girlfriend up a conga-line Yosemite trade route!

I am sure Yos locals and visitors with a clue thank you for the warning.


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Do you hate this person?

A good way to get out of a relationship huh?

If you want to get rid of her just leave her in camp 4 in the care of some crusty old wall rats while you go out and climb.

On the other hand. If she made it up the route, through the full day of hiking, did'nt complain, has a smile on her face at the end of the day, and says, what are we gonna climb tomarrow?

Shes a keeper!

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