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IMO,the three most powerful causes to stop climbers from climbing would be; 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF 3-Physical/medical issues there are no 4th or 5th
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Well, I can think of at least two more obvious ones.
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How about death of said climber well participating in climbing? I think that one would take the cake.
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blondgecko wrote: Well, I can think of at least two more obvious ones. death and taxes?
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majid_sabet wrote: IMO,the three most powerful causes to stop climbers from climbing would be; 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF 3-Physical/medical issues there are no 4th or 5th Insanity. On second thought, it didn't stop you. On third thought, do you actually climb? Jay
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Gravity occasionally prevents me from climbing, but is also a driving factor in why I climb... Hmm.
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wear 2, or majid will have an aneurysm over your lack of redundancy
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majid_sabet wrote: 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF I don't get it. You got a thing for transsexuals and/ or hermaphrodites? I think that's great -- they're people that need love just like everyone else -- but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that your tastes don't generally extend to the average climber. Best of luck with your significant other; I sincerely hope you make him/ her very happy.
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majid_sabet wrote: IMO,the three most powerful causes to stop climbers from climbing would be; 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF 3-Physical/medical issues there are no 4th or 5th I would say: 1 - Ran outta beer. 2 - Ran outta Ham Sammies 3 - Ran into Majid at the climbing area. Just kidding Majid...or am I?!? JB
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i think buying a house would be #4 if allowed, at least that has put a kink in getting out for me this summer, that and the endless rain we have had in NY
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As inconceivable as it might be; loss of interest happens also. Oh, and getting stuck in flatland.
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kovacs69 wrote: majid_sabet wrote: IMO,the three most powerful causes to stop climbers from climbing would be; 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF 3-Physical/medical issues there are no 4th or 5th I would say: 1 - Ran outta beer. 2 - Ran outta Ham Sammies 3 - Ran into Majid at the climbing area. Just kidding Majid...or am I?!? JB if majid was at a climbing area, that would mean he might actually be climbing... which i think we all know is impossible.
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Turning 30.
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1. (for trad climbers) ~25 degree overhang 2. (for sport climbers) More than 5-7 feet between bolts 3. (for Boulderers) Lost beanie
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!- No Rock 2- No Chicks 3-No Beer
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Nice..and how about based on frequency of occurances: 5- Death (very infrequent) 4- Injury/illness (infrequent) 3- Transportation issue (infrequent) 2- Inclimate weather (frequent) 1- Nagging significant other (very frequent)
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I call bullshit, 30 watch your tongue. Just look at angry hes like 50 pulling down hard. Go angry you old mudder trucker.
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gmggg wrote: 2. (for sport climbers) More than 5-7 feet between bolts 7 foot runouts are crazy. I like climbing, but I don't have a death wish. Some climbs you just have to skip if whoever bolted it was too lazy to place enough bolts. Also, while we're on the subject, I have a pet peeve. When you're bolting along a crack, don't skimp on the cost of hardware by just bolting along one side. Some of us are left handed, and having bolts running along both sides makes clipping much easier. I hate having to reach across my body to clip. You would think experienced climbers would have thought of things like this before going out and buying a bolt gun or whatever they use...
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bill413 wrote: As inconceivable as it might be; loss of interest happens also. Oh, and getting stuck in flatland. ...sobs quietly to himself in the corner...
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healyje wrote: subantz wrote: I call bullshit, 30 watch your tongue. Just look at angry hes like 50 pulling down hard. Go angry you old mudder trucker. Well, let's have a little speculative quiz - what percentage of climbers who start climbing before the age of 20 are still climbing post-30? I'm guessing way, way south of 50% myself...
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majid_sabet wrote: IMO,the three most powerful causes to stop climbers from climbing would be; 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF 3-Physical/medical issues there are no 4th or 5th Depends on what you mean by 'climbers.' I'd say the #1 cause for drop out is the realization that the person just doesn't like it. "Climbing would be great if it weren't for all that climbing." I think, for any given crop of wouldbe noob climbers? The 10-year drop out rate is WAY above 90%. Now some of that 90% will insist for years afterward, that they are climbers. But they climb little if nothing at all. Because BEING a climber is more important than 'all that climbing.' Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me. But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink. If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB. Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact. DMT
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healyje wrote: subantz wrote: I call bullshit, 30 watch your tongue. Just look at angry hes like 50 pulling down hard. Go angry you old mudder trucker. Well, let's have a little speculative quiz - what percentage of climbers who start climbing before the age of 20 are still climbing post-30? I'm guessing way, way south of 50% myself... Less than 10% is my guess. DMT
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jt512 wrote: On third thought, do you actually climb? Jay This strikes to the heart of the matter, not just for majid but for you, me and everyone else. You're only a climber when you're climbing. If your climbing (the figurative 'you') is 97% done in the gym, then you're a gym climber. No amount of wanking on the internet will put the wild in 97% gym time. I can't imagine a pure gym climber lasting a decade wanking on plastic. DMT
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1) The ground. 2) The rope. 3) The summit.
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curt wrote: subantz wrote: I call bullshit, 30 watch your tongue. Just look at angry hes like 50 pulling down hard. Go angry you old mudder trucker. If angry is 50, that makes me around 100. Curt Is that dog ears? I mean years! DMT
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dingus
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tomtom wrote: 1) The ground. 2) The rope. 3) The summit. We have a winner! This is the correct answer it seems! Those other things don't stop climber. DMT
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: bill413 wrote: As Oh, and getting stuck in flatland. ...sobs quietly to himself in the corner... Windsor ish flat....very flat and now our gym is closed.... so... we climb the windmill
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In reply to: Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me. But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink. If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB. Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact. I agree, if you want to be lonely. I love to climb but I like my lady friend too. Plus the rock doesn't make pancakes for me and it doesn't bang me (maybe poor word choice). If I wanted a climbing girlfriend I would've cut my odds by at least 75%. I mean I'm a good looking guy but I don't want to work THAT hard. Plus, I like my barbie. You are definitely right though. If you want to climb, you will. Dealing with the consequences when you return is another issue. I had to go to a wedding instead of Rendezvous '09. But I held it over her head until I got three more trips out of it. Crafty, I know. If you're good to them, they'll let you go..unless you don't see each other very often and then that might make things worse and they will want to be with you more. So you should just go anyways. You know what, nevermind. After rereading my post I'm dropping her off by the curb. What was I talking about? CAN I SAYZ FAIL? I'm going climbing now.
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bobbj22 wrote: In reply to: Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me. But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink. If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB. Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact. I agree, if you want to be lonely. I love to climb but I like my lady friend too. Plus the rock doesn't make pancakes for me and it doesn't bang me (maybe poor word choice). If I wanted a climbing girlfriend I would've cut my odds by at least 75%. I mean I'm a good looking guy but I don't want to work THAT hard. Plus, I like my barbie. You are definitely right though. If you want to climb, you will. Dealing with the consequences when you return is another issue. I had to go to a wedding instead of Rendezvous '09. But I held it over her head until I got three more trips out of it. Crafty, I know. If you're good to them, they'll let you go..unless you don't see each other very often and then that might make things worse and they will want to be with you more. So you should just go anyways. You know what, nevermind. After rereading my post I'm dropping her off by the curb. What was I talking about? CAN I SAYZ FAIL? I'm going climbing now. Bad weather good weather its all climbing weather. DMT
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dingus wrote: jt512 wrote: On third thought, do you actually climb? Jay This strikes to the heart of the matter, not just for majid but for you, me and everyone else. You're only a climber when you're climbing. If your climbing (the figurative 'you') is 97% done in the gym, then you're a gym climber. No amount of wanking on the internet will put the wild in 97% gym time. I can't imagine a pure gym climber lasting a decade wanking on plastic. DMT ...again sobs quietly in the corner... ..looks with sad puppy eyes... ..mutters pleadingly "wanking won't help?"...
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dingus wrote: majid_sabet wrote: IMO,the three most powerful causes to stop climbers from climbing would be; 1-Wife/Husband 2-GF/BF 3-Physical/medical issues there are no 4th or 5th Depends on what you mean by 'climbers.' I'd say the #1 cause for drop out is the realization that the person just doesn't like it. "Climbing would be great if it weren't for all that climbing." I think, for any given crop of wouldbe noob climbers? The 10-year drop out rate is WAY above 90%. Now some of that 90% will insist for years afterward, that they are climbers. But they climb little if nothing at all. Because BEING a climber is more important than 'all that climbing.' Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me. But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink. If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB. Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact. DMT Agreed. 1. Have brooken up with nagging GF many times 2. lived in a place were the closest climbing was 6hr's away. Still climbed every weekend. 3. Tore my achilles and contracted seratia post repair operation(necrotizing bacteria) it ate my achilles and most of my cafe mouscle. I was told I would never walk again. Climbing is what motivated me to get off my ass and prove the Dr. wrong. One year latter next week and I am climbing 11.c again. If you want to climb you will find a way.
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: bill413 wrote: As inconceivable as it might be; loss of interest happens also. Oh, and getting stuck in flatland. ...sobs quietly to himself in the corner... Sorry.
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Toast_in_the_Machine wrote: dingus wrote: jt512 wrote: On third thought, do you actually climb? Jay This strikes to the heart of the matter, not just for majid but for you, me and everyone else. You're only a climber when you're climbing. If your climbing (the figurative 'you') is 97% done in the gym, then you're a gym climber. No amount of wanking on the internet will put the wild in 97% gym time. I can't imagine a pure gym climber lasting a decade wanking on plastic. DMT ...again sobs quietly in the corner... ..looks with sad puppy eyes... ..mutters pleadingly "wanking won't help?"... Well, it could strengthen certain things that might be helpful.
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Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now.
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CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now. Damn. One of my friends drove through a store window with a BAC of 0.22, and he only spent one night in jail. Talk about a messed up system.
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tell me about it dude.. My "crime" didn't even hurt anyone anyones' FEELINGS let alone physical or property damage. And now i'm out of climbing for who knows how long. I'm still waiting for my trial.
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CrazyPetie wrote: tell me about it dude.. My "crime" didn't even hurt anyone anyones' FEELINGS ... Dude, you committed a crime, not a "crime".
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acorneau wrote: CrazyPetie wrote: tell me about it dude.. My "crime" didn't even hurt anyone anyones' FEELINGS ... Dude, you committed a crime, not a "crime". Thats debatable. A crime, in my opinion, is something that is illegal and immoral all over the world. You couldn't say, "hey i'm going to goto Amsterdam to murder some people. I hear its legal there." Growing a plant is hardly a crime. and if you think otherwise i really dont wanna hear what you have to say cause it will just piss me off.
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CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now. Well at LEAST YOU'RE not ABUSING CAPITAL letters YET! (look on the bright side) DMT
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zchandran wrote: CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now. Damn. One of my friends drove through a store window with a BAC of 0.22, and he only spent one night in jail. Talk about a messed up system. Thank America's War On [SOME] Drugs for that.
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CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now. See my reason is having to be at work supervising all the people who got caught growing marijuana, killed somebody, and other unspeakables. Having the badge hinders climbing sometimes. Austin
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If you want to murder someone, go to sudan. Nobody cares about killings there. (just saying that illegal and immoral all over the world is a pretty harsh standard...)
In reply to: and if you think otherwise i really dont wanna hear what you have to say cause it will just piss me off. discussion is the foundation of democracy...
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austinnokc wrote: CrazyPetie wrote: Getting busted for growing marijuana and going to jail, then being on house arrest with nothing else to do but surf the web? Thats #1 reason in my world right now. See my reason is having to be at work supervising all the people who got caught growing marijuana, killed somebody, and other unspeakables. Having the badge hinders climbing sometimes. Austin Well, when you lump it together like that, it's just as logically correct to say: "all the people who got caught speeding, growing marijuana, killed somebody, and other unspeakables". Don't think anyone here is saying killing people is punished disproportionately, but while I'm not an expert on the matter, I don't think the majority of marijuana growers spend a regular portion of their work day blowing people away with suppressed shotguns.
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Sometimes a prison guard is just a prison guard. DMT
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i would say a lack of good near-by spots is def a big factor in stopping climbing...i used to live in PA, where there are spots everywhere and recently moved to Hoboken, NJ where there is virtually nothing...ive been making the best of it by bouldering in central park in NYC and joining a gym..but i could see how it would stop an unmotivated climber from continuing to pursue...but hey where there's awill there's a way...im trying to head to the Gunks soon...anyone have any recommendations on the best bouldering spots and camping spots??
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dingus wrote: Depends on what you mean by 'climbers.' I'd say the #1 cause for drop out is the realization that the person just doesn't like it. "Climbing would be great if it weren't for all that climbing." I think, for any given crop of wouldbe noob climbers? The 10-year drop out rate is WAY above 90%. Now some of that 90% will insist for years afterward, that they are climbers. But they climb little if nothing at all. Because BEING a climber is more important than 'all that climbing.' Its easy to blame husband, boyfriend, physical handicap.... believe me. But those are just excuses and excuses are like assholes and erveryone has one and they all stink. If you want to climb? YOU WILL CLIMB. Blame it on the significant other. But at the end of the day climbers don't stop climbing. That is a simple fact. DMT I think this is pretty accurate. 9 years into my climbing life, I was severely injured and knocked out from any chances of climbing in near future. I didn't tell people I was a climber, or even really want to talk about the stuff I could no longer do at the time. After many years of rehabilitating my body, I was able to finally get back to climbing and I now find every excuse I can to be out climbing. If you WANT to climb.....you WILL climb.
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dingus wrote: Sometimes a prison guard is just a prison guard. DMT haha they dont care. If your in orange your evil in their book. I bet that badge really gets in the way of their rappelling and rescue practice...
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If you really love climbing, you aren't going to be with someone who doesn't love the outdoors also or who stops you from doing what you love. Hell, lets make that a general statement: You should not be with someone who doesn't let you do what you love doing. That said, I think weather is the greatest enemy of the climber...at least here in the midwest.
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i gave up climbing to do this i truly miss climbing though and roadracing is too expensive for the way things are with the economy right now. was dropping 2-3 gs a month just on motorcycling
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CrazyPetie wrote: acorneau wrote: CrazyPetie wrote: tell me about it dude.. My "crime" didn't even hurt anyone anyones' FEELINGS ... Dude, you committed a crime, not a "crime". Thats debatable. A crime, in my opinion, is something that is illegal and immoral all over the world. You couldn't say, "hey i'm going to goto Amsterdam to murder some people. I hear its legal there." Growing a plant is hardly a crime. and if you think otherwise i really dont wanna hear what you have to say cause it will just piss me off. Just five plants dude and if you get caught selling any you're in big shit dude. So lets hear it how many plants.
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I_do
Aug 10, 2009, 2:29 AM
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CrazyPetie wrote: dingus wrote: Sometimes a prison guard is just a prison guard. DMT haha they dont care. If your in orange your evil in their book. I bet that badge really gets in the way of their rappelling and rescue practice... What are you twelve? You got caught, live up to it. Rules are there for a reason and I think they make for a better society overall. sometimes they are stupid, but until you fess up some more details we can't know whether you've been "wronged" or not, cause that's how you're acting. So if you just had a few plants that's ok in my book. Making money off it? Not ok. Acting like prison guards see all inmates as "evil"? Grow up dude.
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