Some one with more time then me should take this class and report back, to get those numbers he must have a class going every week. I wonder if he would even contact you back, and if he did would it be 10 pages long?

I would suggest that you do a little more reading about the The Iowa Mountaineers ( http://iowamountaineers.tripod.com/) and Idaho, a climbing guide: climbs, scrambles, and hikes By Tom Lopez; it looks like the Ebert family had some pretty good company, unless you think Paul Petzoldt is a fraud also.

Ding ding ding. We have a winner!

For people that do not know there climbing history,

Paul Kiesow Petzoldt (January 16, 1908 – October 6, 1999) was one of America's most accomplished mountaineers. He is perhaps best known for establishing the National Outdoor Leadership School in 1965. In 1938 Paul Petzoldt was a member of the first American team to attempt a climb on K2 and made his first ascent of the Grand Teton in 1924 at the age of 16. He and a partner were possibly the first climbers ever to traverse the Matterhorn twice in one day. During World War II Petzoldt served in the U.S. Army's 10th Mountain Division.[1]

Petzoldt's other accomplishments in the outdoors are also considered major advances among wilderness enthusiasts. Before the establishment of NOLS, he had a hand in creating a Colorado addition to the Outward Bound program as well as the first guide service in the Tetons. Noted in his introduction to The New Wilderness Handbook, his experience in NOLS, Outward Bound and love of the wilderness, evolved into the Wilderness Education Association. WEA courses, certification and knowledge are still helping many advocates of the environment learn ways to have low-impact adventures in the environment.