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dscow1980
Mar 15, 2011, 6:09 AM
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So for my stats class I taking a survey to determine the percentage of climbers, who have been climbing for more than 2 years, that have lead (trad or sport) a 5.12 (indoors or outdoors). If you dont mind answering these 4 questions I would greatly appricate it. It should only take a minute. I need 100 replies to do my project.
Thanks.
Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport)
Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years?
Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym)
Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead?
Thanks again for your help, I think it will be interesting to see how many people have been lead climbing for more than two years that have ever lead a 5.12.
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jt512
Mar 15, 2011, 6:16 AM
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dscow1980 wrote: So for my stats class I taking a survey to determine the percentage of climbers, who have been climbing for more than 2 years, that have lead (trad or sport) a 5.12 (indoors or outdoors). If you dont mind answering these 4 questions I would greatly appricate it. It should only take a minute. I need 100 replies to do my project. Thanks.
Well, this is an improvement. Whatever you do, don't give us "assholes" any credit.
In reply to: Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport)
Yes.
In reply to: Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years?
Yes.
In reply to: Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym)
Yes.
In reply to: Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead?
5.13a.
In reply to: Thanks again for your help, I think it will be interesting to see how many people have been lead climbing for more than two years that have ever lead a 5.12.
Well, this poll won't allow you to answer that question, but I guess that's part of the learning process.
Jay
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gosharks
Mar 15, 2011, 8:09 AM
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Good luck with making something out of this...
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dscow1980 wrote: So for my stats class I taking a survey to determine the percentage of climbers, who have been climbing for more than 2 years, that have lead (trad or sport) a 5.12 (indoors or outdoors). If you dont mind answering these 4 questions I would greatly appricate it. It should only take a minute. I need 100 replies to do my project. Thanks. Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport)
In reply to: Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years?
In reply to: Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym)
In reply to: Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead?
In reply to: Thanks again for your help, I think it will be interesting to see how many people have been lead climbing for more than two years that have ever lead a 5.12. |
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sungam
Mar 15, 2011, 12:07 PM
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7a+ (.12a)
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lena_chita
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dscow1980 wrote: Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport).
Yes
dscow1980 wrote: Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years?.
Yes
dscow1980 wrote: Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym).
Yes. I am assuming you mean outdoor or gym. I have never led a gym 5.12.
dscow1980 wrote: Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead? .
Led -- 5.12c. Redpointed-- 5.12a. Not sure if you care, or know, about the difference.
dscow1980 wrote: Thanks again for your help, I think it will be interesting to see how many people have been lead climbing for more than two years that have ever lead a 5.12.
I don't think you would get accurate representation, or anything meaningful at all, but good luck.
Edited b/c I realized that all my ' 12b's" have been down-graded to .12a.
(This post was edited by lena_chita on Mar 15, 2011, 3:50 PM)
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sungam
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lena_chita wrote: I don't think you would get accurate representation, or anything meaningful at all, but good luck.
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csproul
Mar 15, 2011, 1:00 PM
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lena_chita wrote: dscow1980 wrote: Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport). Yes dscow1980 wrote: Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years?. Yes dscow1980 wrote: Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym). Yes. I am assuming you mean outdoor or gym. I have never led a gym 5.12. dscow1980 wrote: Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead? . dscow1980 wrote: Thanks again for your help, I think it will be interesting to see how many people have been lead climbing for more than two years that have ever lead a 5.12. I don't think you would get accurate representation, or anything meaningful at all, but good luck.
Anyway, I'll answer your questions:
Yes
Yes
No
11c
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Mar 15, 2011, 1:01 PM
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sungam wrote: lena_chita wrote: I don't think you would get accurate representation, or anything meaningful at all, but good luck. Yes, there will clearly be a flood of posters coming in and letting everybody know that they don't climb .12.
Yes
Yes
No
11a
Take that Sungam!
I love statistics, and that most people don't understand them...
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jo247
Mar 15, 2011, 1:06 PM
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dscow1980 wrote: Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport) Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years? Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym) Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead?
1) Yes, sport (trad soon ! :) )
2) yes, 8 years actually.
3) No, sadly.
4) 5.11+ , indoor
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Mar 15, 2011, 1:07 PM
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Tipton wrote: sungam wrote: lena_chita wrote: I don't think you would get accurate representation, or anything meaningful at all, but good luck. Yes, there will clearly be a flood of posters coming in and letting everybody know that they don't climb .12. Yes Yes No 11a Take that Sungam! I love statistics, and that most people don't understand them...
Yes
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That makes 2 of us!
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shoo
Mar 15, 2011, 1:22 PM
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dscow1980 wrote: So for my stats class I taking a survey to determine the percentage of climbers, who have been climbing for more than 2 years, that have lead (trad or sport) a 5.12 (indoors or outdoors). If you dont mind answering these 4 questions I would greatly appricate it. It should only take a minute. I need 100 replies to do my project. Thanks. Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport) Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years? Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym) Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead? Thanks again for your help, I think it will be interesting to see how many people have been lead climbing for more than two years that have ever lead a 5.12.
Please tell me that the topic you are being taught jn your stats class is sampling bias. There is no way in hell you are going to get even remotely close to a generalizable statistic in this format.
But just to play along:
Yes
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Yes
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5.8
Oops, I guess I should read the questions before answering. 
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chilli
Mar 15, 2011, 1:44 PM
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1. yes - both
2. yes
3. yes - both (more indoors but i'm more inclined to count indoor as exercise rather than a milestone/marker - even though some of those feel harder for the rating than some outdoor routes)
4. 12b's sport outside clean, but never onsight. much lower on trad. (lots of luck trying to get back to that point anytime soon - come to think of it, maybe i should start another "help! my climbing strength has dropped and plateaued!" thread about that..)
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sungam
Mar 15, 2011, 2:16 PM
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swoopee wrote: yes yes yes 5.8
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lena_chita
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csproul wrote: [I'll assume this means that you led the 12c with some hangs? Unless I know they are talking about aiding, when someone tells me they led something, I usually assume they did so cleanly, without falls, hanging, or pulling on gear (I know...I'm not primarily a sport climber). If we're counting aid climbing, I've "led" in the high 13's. Not trying to be difficult, I was truly confused by what you wrote, as I'm sure the OP was.
Maybe I am wrong about this, but when someone says that they led a route, to me it simply means climbing with the belayer at the bottom, clipping the rope as you go, e.i. without TR.
Sending, or redpointing/flashing means leading cleanly. But hangdog is still a lead. And if you didn't pull on any gear while hangdogging, then I don't think it qualifies as aid.
If someone says that they've "done the route" to me it means that they have led it cleanly, without hangs. But if someone says that they led a route, the next sentence could very well be "I led it, but didn't do it clean."
Probably isn't important, anyway.
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Mar 15, 2011, 2:32 PM
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Yes; Sport
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5.10a
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Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport)
Yes, traditional climbing(though I would clip when presented with the opportunity)
Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years?yes
Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym)no. ohhhh, wait - this is about GYM climbing? Then why have you asked if we lead traditional and sport climbing, and not jusy GYM crap in your Q1?
Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead? Indoors? I have never led in a gym. Outside, 5.8
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Mar 15, 2011, 2:59 PM
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13b lead, 12c redpoint (neither of which were recent)
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shoo wrote: Please tell me that the topic you are being taught jn your stats class is sampling bias. There is no way in hell you are going to get even remotely close to a generalizable statistic in this format.
I'd guess the self report bias isn't quite as bad as asking parents if their kids are of above average intelligence...
but just to play along,
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Mar 15, 2011, 3:04 PM
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dscow1980 wrote: Question One. Do you lead climb? (trad or sport)
In reply to: Question Two. Have you been lead climbing for more than two years?
In reply to: Question Three. Have you ever lead a 5.12? (indoor or gym)
In reply to: Question Four. What is the hardest route you have ever lead?
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billcoe_
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1) yes
2) yes
3) yes -outdoors, never even close in a gym and these days when I do lead in the gym it's @ 5.9 max and @5.10 trad outdoors.
4) 12a - crack
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