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erisspirit
Sep 28, 2011, 4:45 PM
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Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L
traveling PTFTW?
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erisspirit
Sep 28, 2011, 4:45 PM
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erisspirit wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L traveling PTFTW?
woo!
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erisspirit
Sep 28, 2011, 4:46 PM
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erisspirit wrote: erisspirit wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L traveling PTFTW? woo!
PT leaving on a jet plane
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erisspirit
Sep 28, 2011, 4:46 PM
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so tired... need 2 tons more cawfee
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Gmburns2000
Sep 28, 2011, 4:49 PM
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donald949 wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: GAAAAA!!!!  MY EYES!!!!! ^^^^CONTENT!!!!! INRT
oh, but you'll read the long one instead? I see how it is.
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Gmburns2000
Sep 28, 2011, 4:51 PM
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Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L
awwww...it's about C$1.50 here. You poor babies 
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johnwesely
Sep 28, 2011, 4:55 PM
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donald949 wrote: johnwesely wrote: donald949 wrote: Never been a member at a gym. But a couple of guys noobs at work started climbing at the gym. I've been out with them a couple times this spring. So we are planning to start climbing in the gym on a regular basis. I guess now I'll have to get belay certified. You will become stronger than you ever imagined! Your shirt will literally melt off your rippling pectorals and washboard abs!  The wife will be glad to hear it.
I am glad to be of service.
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johnwesely
Sep 28, 2011, 4:55 PM
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donald949 wrote: johnwesely wrote: notapplicable wrote: Good luck with that. It can be harder than it sounds. You have to belay the way they think is correct, which can sometimes actually be not so correct, or at least not ideal. I've failed several belay tests over they years because of dumb shit on their checklists. If that happens, I give them a stern eye, back them in to a wall, and say, without emotion, "Do you know what I went through to get this far?". Never fails. Most of the time. How bout... I wuz givin the hip belays to leaders 300 feet off the deck before you were born son. Don't read me no paper that sayz palms down on belay boy. 
You better have been giving those hip belays palm down.
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Kartessa
Sep 28, 2011, 4:56 PM
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erisspirit wrote: so tired... need 2 tons more cawfee
I'm right there with you.
Instead I'm having a friend call my work to say I need to leave.
only an hour left to go!
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johnwesely
Sep 28, 2011, 4:56 PM
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Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L
METRIC!!!
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Kartessa
Sep 28, 2011, 5:00 PM
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Gmburns2000 wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L awwww...it's about C$1.50 here. You poor babies
Thats what you get for going to a third world country
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Kartessa
Sep 28, 2011, 5:04 PM
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johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L METRIC!!!
Conversion: like a bazzillion dollars per gallon
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Gmburns2000
Sep 28, 2011, 5:16 PM
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Kartessa wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L awwww...it's about C$1.50 here. You poor babies Thats what you get for going to a third world country
bigger economy than yours (by a lot!)
wiki (nominal GDP)
wiki (PPP GDP) - even bigger difference here.
You don't even make this list.
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Kartessa
Sep 28, 2011, 5:19 PM
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Gmburns2000 wrote: Kartessa wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L awwww...it's about C$1.50 here. You poor babies Thats what you get for going to a third world country bigger economy than yours (by a lot!) wiki (nominal GDP) wiki (PPP GDP) - even bigger difference here. You don't even make this list.
Whatever, your list also says that India does better than us.
Sure, their output is higher, but the general population is much better off here
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Kartessa
Sep 28, 2011, 5:24 PM
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The measure of a country is more than just how much money it throws around...
I think how it treats its poor/sick/children/elderly is a better indicator.
There's rich assholes everywhere
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Gmburns2000
Sep 28, 2011, 5:40 PM
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Kartessa wrote: The measure of a country is more than just how much money it throws around... I think how it treats its poor/sick/children/elderly is a better indicator. There's rich assholes everywhere
valid point, but money allows for various services to be available.
my point was that Brasil is without a doubt not a third world country. It's problem is it's massive wealth gap (one of the largest in the world), but the middle class has erupted the past 15 years or so (a little less) such that a middle-class life is not unlike a middle class life in north america. in some ways it's worse, but in others it is better.
for instance, in Chile, there is a huge middle class, but purchasing power is relatively weak. they are comfortable in their lives and are not poor by any measure, but they spend a lot of money to maintain the status quo. there isn't a lot of money to be spread around. chileans find it difficult to travel, for instance, beyond Peru, Bolivia, and Argentina because it is very expensive for them to do so.
in Brasil, however, things are much more expensive and they make quite a bit more than in Chile, but they also have a lot more extra money to throw around. in general, their lives are more comfortable (better homes, better access to vehicles, better access to technology, etc). brasilians travel the world fairly easily because they have the ability to do so.
Purchasing Power is a good way to judge the country's ability to make money and spend it. Of course, it says nothing of it's efficiency. Brasil is a tad bit shy of "efficient? what the hell is that?" on the efficiency scale.
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donald949
Sep 28, 2011, 6:18 PM
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Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: johnwesely wrote: Kartessa wrote: To go to Yosemite this weekend Go to Squamish and climb with my friend Sonny. too expensive, flights to BC run in the 700 range Holy cow. Planes are spensive. Canada just doesnt like it's people moving around, flights are expensive, trains are more, and gas is $1.25/L
But the drugs are cheap.
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donald949
Sep 28, 2011, 6:19 PM
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Gmburns2000 wrote: donald949 wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: GAAAAA!!!! MY EYES!!!!! ^^^^CONTENT!!!!! INRT oh, but you'll read the long one instead? I see how it is.
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donald949
Sep 28, 2011, 6:21 PM
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johnwesely wrote: donald949 wrote: johnwesely wrote: notapplicable wrote: Good luck with that. It can be harder than it sounds. You have to belay the way they think is correct, which can sometimes actually be not so correct, or at least not ideal. I've failed several belay tests over they years because of dumb shit on their checklists. If that happens, I give them a stern eye, back them in to a wall, and say, without emotion, "Do you know what I went through to get this far?". Never fails. Most of the time. How bout... I wuz givin the hip belays to leaders 300 feet off the deck before you were born son. Don't read me no paper that sayz palms down on belay boy. You better have been giving those hip belays palm down.
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johnwesely
Sep 28, 2011, 6:23 PM
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donald949 wrote: johnwesely wrote: donald949 wrote: johnwesely wrote: notapplicable wrote: Good luck with that. It can be harder than it sounds. You have to belay the way they think is correct, which can sometimes actually be not so correct, or at least not ideal. I've failed several belay tests over they years because of dumb shit on their checklists. If that happens, I give them a stern eye, back them in to a wall, and say, without emotion, "Do you know what I went through to get this far?". Never fails. Most of the time. How bout... I wuz givin the hip belays to leaders 300 feet off the deck before you were born son. Don't read me no paper that sayz palms down on belay boy. You better have been giving those hip belays palm down. Only you will get the hip belay palms down.
Wait, a hip belay palms down is the equivalent to a tube belay palms up.
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donald949
Sep 28, 2011, 6:24 PM
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Gmburns2000 wrote: Kartessa wrote: The measure of a country is more than just how much money it throws around... I think how it treats its poor/sick/children/elderly is a better indicator. There's rich assholes everywhere valid point, but money allows for various services to be available. my point was that Brasil is without a doubt not a third world country. It's problem is it's massive wealth gap (one of the largest in the world), but the middle class has erupted the past 15 years or so (a little less) such that a middle-class life is not unlike a middle class life in north america. in some ways it's worse, but in others it is better. for instance, in Chile, there is a huge middle class, but purchasing power is relatively weak. they are comfortable in their lives and are not poor by any measure, but they spend a lot of money to maintain the status quo. there isn't a lot of money to be spread around. chileans find it difficult to travel, for instance, beyond Peru, Bolivia, and Argentina because it is very expensive for them to do so. in Brasil, however, things are much more expensive and they make quite a bit more than in Chile, but they also have a lot more extra money to throw around. in general, their lives are more comfortable (better homes, better access to vehicles, better access to technology, etc). brasilians travel the world fairly easily because they have the ability to do so. Purchasing Power is a good way to judge the country's ability to make money and spend it. Of course, it says nothing of it's efficiency. Brasil is a tad bit shy of "efficient? what the hell is that?" on the efficiency scale.
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Gmburns2000
Sep 28, 2011, 6:43 PM
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donald949 wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: Kartessa wrote: The measure of a country is more than just how much money it throws around... I think how it treats its poor/sick/children/elderly is a better indicator. There's rich assholes everywhere valid point, but money allows for various services to be available. my point was that Brasil is without a doubt not a third world country. It's problem is it's massive wealth gap (one of the largest in the world), but the middle class has erupted the past 15 years or so (a little less) such that a middle-class life is not unlike a middle class life in north america. in some ways it's worse, but in others it is better. for instance, in Chile, there is a huge middle class, but purchasing power is relatively weak. they are comfortable in their lives and are not poor by any measure, but they spend a lot of money to maintain the status quo. there isn't a lot of money to be spread around. chileans find it difficult to travel, for instance, beyond Peru, Bolivia, and Argentina because it is very expensive for them to do so. in Brasil, however, things are much more expensive and they make quite a bit more than in Chile, but they also have a lot more extra money to throw around. in general, their lives are more comfortable (better homes, better access to vehicles, better access to technology, etc). brasilians travel the world fairly easily because they have the ability to do so. Purchasing Power is a good way to judge the country's ability to make money and spend it. Of course, it says nothing of it's efficiency. Brasil is a tad bit shy of "efficient? what the hell is that?" on the efficiency scale. PPD, whats that?
where did I say that?
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donald949
Sep 28, 2011, 8:36 PM
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johnwesely wrote: donald949 wrote: johnwesely wrote: donald949 wrote: johnwesely wrote: notapplicable wrote: Good luck with that. It can be harder than it sounds. You have to belay the way they think is correct, which can sometimes actually be not so correct, or at least not ideal. I've failed several belay tests over they years because of dumb shit on their checklists. If that happens, I give them a stern eye, back them in to a wall, and say, without emotion, "Do you know what I went through to get this far?". Never fails. Most of the time. How bout... I wuz givin the hip belays to leaders 300 feet off the deck before you were born son. Don't read me no paper that sayz palms down on belay boy. You better have been giving those hip belays palm down. Only you will get the hip belay palms down. Wait, a hip belay palms down is the equivalent to a tube belay palms up.
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donald949
Sep 28, 2011, 8:37 PM
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Gmburns2000 wrote: donald949 wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: Kartessa wrote: The measure of a country is more than just how much money it throws around... I think how it treats its poor/sick/children/elderly is a better indicator. There's rich assholes everywhere valid point, but money allows for various services to be available. my point was that Brasil is without a doubt not a third world country. It's problem is it's massive wealth gap (one of the largest in the world), but the middle class has erupted the past 15 years or so (a little less) such that a middle-class life is not unlike a middle class life in north america. in some ways it's worse, but in others it is better. for instance, in Chile, there is a huge middle class, but purchasing power is relatively weak. they are comfortable in their lives and are not poor by any measure, but they spend a lot of money to maintain the status quo. there isn't a lot of money to be spread around. chileans find it difficult to travel, for instance, beyond Peru, Bolivia, and Argentina because it is very expensive for them to do so. in Brasil, however, things are much more expensive and they make quite a bit more than in Chile, but they also have a lot more extra money to throw around. in general, their lives are more comfortable (better homes, better access to vehicles, better access to technology, etc). brasilians travel the world fairly easily because they have the ability to do so. Purchasing Power is a good way to judge the country's ability to make money and spend it. Of course, it says nothing of it's efficiency. Brasil is a tad bit shy of "efficient? what the hell is that?" on the efficiency scale. PPD, whats that? where did I say that?
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donald949
Sep 28, 2011, 8:38 PM
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donald949 wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: donald949 wrote: Gmburns2000 wrote: Kartessa wrote: The measure of a country is more than just how much money it throws around... I think how it treats its poor/sick/children/elderly is a better indicator. There's rich assholes everywhere valid point, but money allows for various services to be available. my point was that Brasil is without a doubt not a third world country. It's problem is it's massive wealth gap (one of the largest in the world), but the middle class has erupted the past 15 years or so (a little less) such that a middle-class life is not unlike a middle class life in north america. in some ways it's worse, but in others it is better. for instance, in Chile, there is a huge middle class, but purchasing power is relatively weak. they are comfortable in their lives and are not poor by any measure, but they spend a lot of money to maintain the status quo. there isn't a lot of money to be spread around. chileans find it difficult to travel, for instance, beyond Peru, Bolivia, and Argentina because it is very expensive for them to do so. in Brasil, however, things are much more expensive and they make quite a bit more than in Chile, but they also have a lot more extra money to throw around. in general, their lives are more comfortable (better homes, better access to vehicles, better access to technology, etc). brasilians travel the world fairly easily because they have the ability to do so. Purchasing Power is a good way to judge the country's ability to make money and spend it. Of course, it says nothing of it's efficiency. Brasil is a tad bit shy of "efficient? what the hell is that?" on the efficiency scale. PPD, whats that? where did I say that? Say what?
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