1 pair down filled underpants

how many days you going for?
also you might want boots and a helmet...

Is this all gonna fit in this thing?
I stuff it all into my Marmot Eiger 36 BackPack 2400 cu.

Is that a pretty good packing list for, say, an 18,000ft peak, or would I need to add more (warmer) gear?

Also, how warm is your colour sleeping bag?
Thanks!

how many days you going for?
also you might want boots and a helmet...

That was my thought too. I can't imagine all that stuff fitting into a 36L pack.

That was my thought too. I can't imagine all that stuff fitting into a 36L pack.

I don't know what your commitment level is or how fast you want to do this in, but it sounds like you have way too much food. Even if you are going to go for two days you have 8 servings of freeze dried. The mashed are awesome, and oatmeal is great in the morning. The rest you can suppliment. Save your fuel for melting water, to compliment the gels and energy bars. Think 2000-2500calories a day.

If you are going to go for more than two days then you aren't going fast, but you can still go light, but by day three you will need some real food.

As to your pack list. The trekking poles are usually worth the added weight and discomfort when stored. Think about everything you are actually going to use. A sleeping pad (3/4) A bag with bivy or tarp/space blanket, that is if you are going to spend the night. I tend to go for the single push beer by 11 trips. If I can't make it then I make sure I will be comfortable. Nothing worse than kind of sleeping because you are cold and miserable.

As for clothes, think base layer, core insulation (a fleece jacket), shell. A light balaclava is a staple for me but it is personal preference. A warm hat, extra pair of socks and if you are going with fleece gloves bring two pairs. Nothing like changing into a nice dry-warm pair of gloves.

As for fuel. well fuel=water. Water buys you time. I have never been as angry about having extra fuel as I have been when I have run out and ended up dehyrated cramping while postholeing back the car after climbing for two or three days.

Sounds like you have a fun trip in mind. I hope all goes well and you get home safe.

Seems like you're more concerned with trying to be light than fast.

How much water are you planning on taking? I don't recall that being on your list. Are you planning on taking a water purifier or tablets or just boiling the water 20 minutes and using up your fuel?

train hard with heavy weighted pack so you can hump all that gear fast, i can take a 70Lb pack up 1500ft(above 8000MSL) and 4 miles in about 1:30. if im going out for days on end, ill slow it up. And work on getting to know you, ie how much youre going to sweat and heave and wheeze before you decide to go tackle a backcountry adventure, its important to know how you react so you dont sweat, exhaust, and then freeze your wet self to death.....

The light and fast ideal is not magic; it is based not so much on high tech toys or even on leaving everything at home--it's based being willing and able to take on more commitiment.

Also I replaced my whisperlight with a pocket rocket in my winter pack.

if im reading that right was that a summit attempt in the himalayas? if so which one?

I've never been to Whitney, but over 3-4 days will that be "climbing" or mostly flat trekking? Above tree line or below?

Fuel is very important don't under estimate fuel. I too made that mistake and ended up eating dry oatmeal on one trip. Water will help relieve hypohermia and altitude issues. I would choose the fuel for a warm drink and warm food over a sleeping bag and pad. Inside is warm and the outside is warm.

In real cold? No. But I did use one just below the summit of Whitney one January without any problem. It was relatively warm that night (10F?), but you can coax these stoves to life in colder conditions once you know a few tricks. I think they're the best choice for a lightweight Sierra winter trip.

And FYI, the whitney mountaineers route is nearly all trecking...

I will preface this by saying that I have not done the route in winter..

Having done it in the summer, and having a bit of winter climbing experience, I would say that you are in for a slight challenge covering the Eberspacher ledge system on the approach... I guess the snow would make for a softer landing then the summer offers.

Also, it seems to me that a good plan of attack is to do the route in the summer first so that you can get a feel for it. The majority is pretty much a hike but the last 250ft after the notch to the summit are pretty steep.

Also, It seems that you should take into account for where you live. If you are planning a fast and light ascent and it is winter and you live at sea level, perhaps this is a bit ambitious?

BTW.. how are you planning to get near the trailhead.. do you know which way the road goes without the benefit of seeing it?

Naye mate, 8000MSL is 8000 feet above Mean Sea Level, im not wealthy enough nor crazy enough yet to go up a big mountain, but im working on that.

If its a slog, I would just go single push. Skip the camps and go fast n light (Unless the camps are part of the fun). For example, most people in our neck of the woods consider Granite Peak a major undertaking in winter, and allow a full five days to climb. Ptthhhhbbbb. I know from experience that the whole thing can be done in less then 30 hours in winter... just skip all the crap and put the hammer down.

Chop chop.