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coloredchalker
Mar 10, 2005, 3:29 PM
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Which do you prefer?
I go with cotton- comfortable, cheap, DOESN'T SMELL.
thats my real problem with polly. If I shower, apply deodorant, put on a polyester shirt (ie mountain hardware etc. not 70's bowling), then I start to smell bad in about 10 minutes.
Does any one know what to do about this?
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chukarclimber
Mar 10, 2005, 3:41 PM
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buy patagonia capilene, it does not smell.
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womble
Mar 10, 2005, 4:09 PM
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Prefer for what use? It's a meaningless question without some context.
For lounging around at home or going to the gym- cotton.
For a serious and prolonged outing, polyester.
If it stinks after 10 minutes of wear, are you sure that it's been cleaned properly? Clothing gernerally stinks as a result of bacteria buildup. 10 minutes is a bit short for that.
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adamd
Mar 10, 2005, 4:17 PM
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In reply to: buy patagonia capilene, it does not smell.
have you ever worn any?! and you still believe their "anti-microbial" advertising?
try wearing it when you actually get stinky...it takes on a life of it's own.
now my smartwool shirt...that thing is amazing at fending off the funk.
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coloredchalker
Mar 10, 2005, 4:28 PM
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to add meaning to the question:
I'm asking more in regards to physical activity, such as indoor or outdoor climbing etc.
When I machine wash the shirt it comes out smelling good but after wearing it for a short period of time it stinks.
I'm wondering if there is anything you can do to prevent the smell?
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j_ung
Mar 10, 2005, 4:42 PM
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Howdy Aaron,
I generally go synthetic, but I've never tried o' thet thar smarty wool. I here it's pretty slick.
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angelaa
Mar 10, 2005, 4:47 PM
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honestly . . . if I am outside climbing . . . I am more worried about staying cool or warm (SAFE- depending on the weather) than I am about stinking!
COTTON . . THE FABRIC OF OUR DEATH
I always wear poly when outside and active!
If I am outside climbing my arse off . . . I'd better stink . . otherwise I am not climbing hard enough! :wink:
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chukarclimber
Mar 10, 2005, 5:02 PM
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I have worn capilene for 15 years and I dont find any major stink problems, maybe it's you.
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onbelay510
Mar 10, 2005, 5:23 PM
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Cotton kills. I'll take a little stink any day.
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In reply to: honestly . . . if I am outside climbing . . . I am more worried about staying cool or warm (SAFE- depending on the weather) than I am about stinking! COTTON . . THE FABRIC OF OUR DEATH I always wear poly when outside and active! If I am outside climbing my arse off . . . I'd better stink . . otherwise I am not climbing hard enough! :wink:
Exactly.
The way I heard it is "COTTON KILLS"
Cotton just takes way too long to dry which can be a contributing cause of hypothermia and death. Of course I'm talking about in remote or survival type instances. I wear cotton all the time when just out and about in normal life.
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angelaa
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In reply to: In reply to: honestly . . . if I am outside climbing . . . I am more worried about staying cool or warm (SAFE- depending on the weather) than I am about stinking! COTTON . . THE FABRIC OF OUR DEATH I always wear poly when outside and active! If I am outside climbing my arse off . . . I'd better stink . . otherwise I am not climbing hard enough! :wink: Exactly. The way I heard it is "COTTON KILLS" Cotton just takes way too long to dry which can be a contributing cause of hypothermia and death. Of course I'm talking about in remote or survival type instances. I wear cotton all the time when just out and about in normal life.
it just a little play on the old
Cotton, the fabric of our lives slogan
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kayakboy
Mar 10, 2005, 5:29 PM
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I prefer silk my self. But there is a company in my town called Ibex that makes some kind of altered wool. It doesnt smell. Highly reccomended, and battle tested, (white water kayaking).
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holmeslovesguinness
Mar 10, 2005, 5:37 PM
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Any time I am cragging I wear the cheapest stuff I can (usually cotton). Unless you are in an environment where you *need* some kind of synthetic clothing (ie, in the back country, climbing in the winter, etc) I see little reason to spend a lot of money on fancy soft goods (other than trying to look the part of a climber).
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mtman
Mar 10, 2005, 5:38 PM
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capline in my expereance dose not smell especialy compared to the polypropiline tops i have used. but i got an ibex top for my birth day and that is amazing it regulates heat better than any other thing i have worn and it dose not smell.
a note to cotton the only time it is really good to wear cotton is in the desert, this is becuse with moisture wicking tops it pulls the swet away form you skin and then evaporates, causing you to over heat and get dehydrated faster, where as cotton retains the moisture and keeps you from getting dehydrated. so cotton kills only sometimes
mtman
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davidji
Mar 10, 2005, 5:57 PM
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In reply to: I prefer silk my self. But there is a company in my town called Ibex that makes some kind of altered wool. It doesnt smell. Highly reccomended, and battle tested, (white water kayaking).
Silk doesn't pick up a stink very fast either, and dries very quickly.
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angelaa
Mar 10, 2005, 7:28 PM
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In reply to: a note to cotton the only time it is really good to wear cotton is in the desert, this is becuse with moisture wicking tops it pulls the swet away form you skin and then evaporates, causing you to over heat and get dehydrated faster, where as cotton retains the moisture and keeps you from getting dehydrated. so cotton kills only sometimes mtman
What happens when you get caught overnight in the desert and you've been sweatin' in your cotton all day . . . just trying to be the devils advocate here. . . :P
i know i know . . . there are a million 'what ifs' :)
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blueeyedclimber
Mar 10, 2005, 8:00 PM
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For all those people saying cotton kils, here is a little more info. Cotton has it's place and breathes a lot easier than synthetics. I have just as much synthetics as the next person, but if I am just cragging, then ususally I will wear a cotton t-shirt (which usually comes off anyway).
There is absolutely nothing wrong with wearing cotton when you can stay dry and warm. The problem is, it is much harder to stay dry and warm when hiking than most people think.
Problems with cotton occur when the cotton gets wet. Cotton does not wick moisture and can become abrasive when wet. When this happens you must watch out for blisters and packsores. Because it holds so much moisture, it can hold that moisture against your body and sap extra warmth from you. This can quickly lead to hypothermia. Cotton also gets heavy. If you wear cotton while hiking, you generally need to carry more "emergency" clothing in case your cotton does get wet (sweat, rain, or falling in while fording a river will all get you wet).
So, as long as you are prepared and are aware of any risks, cotton won't kill.
Josh
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dynosore
Mar 10, 2005, 8:44 PM
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Is polly like down? :P
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coloredchalker
Mar 10, 2005, 9:43 PM
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haha
but that actually makes the problem worse.
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bosterson
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To whoever said Capilene doesn't smell, which capilene have you been using? It doesn't take ten minutes, but my Capilene top definitely needs a wash at the end of the day.
Anyway, I agree that for day trips in warm climates, I generally go in a cotton tshirt. One thing to keep in mind is that fancy polyester knits (the more breathable, mesh-type ones) aren't as durable as cotton in some respects, which can be an issue when you're dragging your body over a rock.
Supposedly the way to go to avoid the stink is either wool (eg, Smartwool stuff), or those new clothes with silver fibers (such as Mountain Hardwear's X-Static stuff), which are antimicrobial. I haven't used either so I can't comment on their actual effectiveness.
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timsesink
Mar 10, 2005, 10:05 PM
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cold day = polly
warm day= cotton
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mr_muffey
Mar 10, 2005, 10:07 PM
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Id go neither. Try Merino Wool, "Ice Breaker". Expensive, never ever smells, feels like a gentle breeze on a baking hot day, and ice breaker stuff is reall styley. The best clothing item i ever bought. I can wear it to bed, in the mountians, up a wall, on the street, to a casual/nice restaurant, all in the same week since it doesnt smell. The wool itself isnt priclky either. Its different to normal sheep wool. Plus its flame retardant, so you can wear it buy the camp fire. Its is fricken perfect!!!
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illimaniman
Mar 10, 2005, 10:27 PM
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Under Armour or the Nike equivalent is really good stuff, in my opinion. I can go jogging 2 or 3 times in my Nike top without washing it (I know, kinda gross), and it doesn't seem to really carry much smell at all. Go to the Nike outlet and look through their synthetic DryFit stuff. You can get some really good deals on warm layers sometimes.
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