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scott_davidson


Apr 27, 2005, 4:41 AM
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i vote for the bibler too, in very cold snowy bivys and wet big wall bivys it has worked perfectly for me.


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just picked up an ID Sola. heavy at 3 lbs, put lighter than a tent. i will mostly use it for solo backcountry exploits next winter. i'm trying it out this weekend, hope it rains! :wink:

rained really hard for about 8 hours and the thing started to get rather damp on the inside, especialy on the seams. not sure if it was condensation or leaking, kind of lame though...


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just picked up an ID Sola. heavy at 3 lbs, put lighter than a tent. i will mostly use it for solo backcountry exploits next winter. i'm trying it out this weekend, hope it rains! :wink:

3lbs is a tank. You could definately get a tent around the same weight. BD's FirstLight comes to mind. 2lbs 11oz for a two person tent. Imagine all that luxurious space for the same weight as your "bivy sack".


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I'm surprised no one has mentioned Black Diamond's Lightsabre bivy. Its a tripod design that's lighter than bibler's no-pole bivy's. Its been really well reviewed.

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just picked up an ID Sola. heavy at 3 lbs, put lighter than a tent. i will mostly use it for solo backcountry exploits next winter. i'm trying it out this weekend, hope it rains! :wink:

3lbs is a tank. You could definately get a tent around the same weight. BD's FirstLight comes to mind. 2lbs 11oz for a two person tent. Imagine all that luxurious space for the same weight as your "bivy sack".

good point, but i'm not so sure i would want to endure very nasty weather in that thing. if all i wanted was something light, i would of just gotten the rei minimalist bivy (which i will probably get for the summer).


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What about using the Bibler big wall bivy for Alpine conditions??


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What about using the Bibler big wall bivy for Alpine conditions??

Mine works well. I've used it in the Pacific NW and here in the NE. A bit cramped to get in and out of. Recomend using the pee bottle if you're prone to midnight urges.


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rained really hard for about 8 hours and the thing started to get rather damp on the inside, especialy on the seams. not sure if it was condensation or leaking, kind of lame though...
Gore Tex and most of those fancy modern laminates work when body moisture evaporates. But if you go to temperatures below freezing avaporating is very slow. In other words you could say such things will never work properly. It's a desingn problem.


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rained really hard for about 8 hours and the thing started to get rather damp on the inside, especialy on the seams. not sure if it was condensation or leaking, kind of lame though...
Gore Tex and most of those fancy modern laminates work when body moisture evaporates. But if you go to temperatures below freezing avaporating is very slow. In other words you could say such things will never work properly. It's a desingn problem.

it was only about 40 degrees out, but as long as it wasn't soaking through because of the material or seams, thats good enough.


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I have the BD Winter Bivy, and it is great. 7oz and it repels water extremely well, especially when the seams are sealed. I have had no durability issues, and have sat out a storm or two in that thing!

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