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vlasik
Sep 1, 2005, 7:23 AM
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I climb indoors now because I am married and have 2 kids and work 75 hours a week and have very little time to drive 3 hours to climb. Much different from living down from Boulder Canyon when I climbed 3-4 days a week and never would have dreamed of climbing indoors. Do I enjoy it...well its better than not climbing at all. What amazes me is talking to gym employees who have never climber outdoors or learned how to place gear.
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kachoong
Sep 1, 2005, 8:54 AM
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In reply to: What amazes me is talking to gym employees who have never climber outdoors or learned how to place gear. ....Seems to be the norm these days.... :roll:
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dingus
Sep 1, 2005, 3:35 PM
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What do you expect, you're in Dallas! Sorta like the Jamaican Bob Sled Team didn't have a lot of 'on-ice' time when they got to the Olympics, ya know? DMT
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cchildre
Sep 1, 2005, 8:43 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: What amazes me is talking to gym employees who have never climber outdoors or learned how to place gear. ....Seems to be the norm these days.... :roll: Honestly...I think it is probably a good thing for the gym. Having semi qualified personell that might accidentally hand out some outdoor climbing advice for placing gear or anything could leave them in a position to face a lawsuit. IMO, gym emps should know indoor safety procedures and climbing movement...but outdoor stuff I think is a non factor. I climb with some guys that work at a shop. The liability part of selling gear, you have to walk a fine line, as your really should not demonstrate how it works, and if so, then always follow it up with, "you must have professional instruction to use this gear properly". The liability thing came up after I missed a hold doing a dyno in the shop from a door jam to the ceiling and fell flat on my back on a concrete floor, with out a spot. Luckily no major damage, but it was one hell of a wake up call for them.
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fender13
Sep 1, 2005, 9:19 PM
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I just glanced through the thread but does anyone here realize that you aloud to just enjoy climbing wherever you are :roll:
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cchildre
Sep 1, 2005, 9:30 PM
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In reply to: I just glanced through the thread but does anyone here realize that you aloud to just enjoy climbing wherever you are :roll: Not to bash on you...but you really should read the whole thread and then answer it yourself.
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tradman
Sep 2, 2005, 9:59 AM
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The criticism that gym routes need to be done in a particular sequence but outdoors you have the freedom to do as you please rings very hollow to me. Hard routes, and especially hard boulder problems, rarely have more than a few ways to do them, precisely because the holds are limited (that's why it's hard, duh). Indoor climbing doesn't very closely simulate easy outdoor climbing, but I've found that it has very useful similarities to the harder stuff. Do I enjoy climbing indoors? Yeah, I do. I'm not the macho sort who spends all week boasting about how "hard" and "dangerous" the 5.2 stepladder he flailed up at the weekend was. I'm not in it for the risk, I'm in it for the challenges, and indoor climbings holds just as many of those as outdoors.
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vanclimber
Sep 2, 2005, 12:44 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: Do what you want, but I'd rather let my climbing ablility suffer than climb in a gym. Just bores the heck out of me. How I ask?? how can you not ENJOY climbing whether its inside or out?? Or maybe your just in it for the sense of achievement , seeing beatiful landscapes, the adventure etcc etc...everything but the actual movement of climbing?? Then again I climb only sport...trad doesnt appeal to me..YET..quite frankly trad kinda freaks me out..I got the jitters just seconding an eay trad climb! :? :? http://www.whatafag.com/...447ac5d_original.jpg
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vanclimber
Sep 2, 2005, 12:46 PM
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In reply to: Ohh but the ppl at the gym can be bullies at times! My buddy was leading the roof and he had his foot on the adjacent wall(off limits) for a microsecond. The gym bully(attempting the adjacent .12d) whose watching like a hawk for a chance to crtisize goes "your judment is tainted...that wall is out..you may as well use the yello and grey holds as well(he was on a red hold route)"...and that guy works there...hes verrry competent and is like an insane climber..but hes arrogant at times....and that kinda taskes away the pleasure from the climbing experience. I find outside I climb at my own pace etc etc....and theres noo bullies around! :wink: :P ROFL
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nicklikesfire
Sep 2, 2005, 1:07 PM
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I liked our gyym at college (clarkson university) The climbbing gym was stutend built, anid student maintained. When you have a part in building something, you apprecuiate it more. Plus I was in charge for a few hours a week, which meant I got keys, which meant if my friends and I wanted to climb at 3 AM, we could. Aside from a top rope wall, bouldering, and a totally sweet cave, our gym had a slackline, gym rope, and other neat stuff. It was a good place to hang out.
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ingrowing_whale
Sep 2, 2005, 3:34 PM
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I love climbing gyms. The one I climb in has wall with cracks and notches in just like a real cliff.
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litleclimberchick
Sep 3, 2005, 3:24 AM
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i used to love climbing at my gym, that is until yesterday when my bf broke up w/ me there. now i cant stand too be there. too many memories. anyone need a climbing partner?
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buoux
Sep 3, 2005, 3:59 AM
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i love climbing. (i didn't read the whole thread - just wanted to say what i had to say) so be it in a gym, a desert-wasteland micro-crag, a route many number grades below my ability, to me it's all climbing. movement, problem solving, and physical ability- that's a big part of what draws me to climb. cool people and good times kinda round it out for me.
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stzzo
Sep 3, 2005, 6:20 AM
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Yup, I do. It's different than climbing outside, but for me it's just as fun - for different reasons.
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andrewbanandrew
Sep 3, 2005, 6:31 AM
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I like how I can get much better much faster in a gym. It doesn't help with routefinding skills at all though, and sometimes it's bad in a way because after a while I start recognising the shapes and colors of the holds, so I know if I can throw to something
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johnsor12
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In reply to: Cause I do!!!! call me a n00b or gymrat or watever, but i honestly love sport climbing inside, cause I find the route patterns and degree of overhang etc etc are pretty varied as compared to outside.( I mean how many outdoor super overhang 5.10s do you find?). I guess I just love climbbing upside down! :roll: :roll: Oh i'm leading about 5.10d - 11b. First off, HOW did this get to five pages off of this? Monkeys can type? strike that....considering the climbing reference. OOOOOOOOOOOOOh I'm leading about 5.10d........... For f*ck sake. flippin dribble.........
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samxbam8
Sep 11, 2005, 3:48 PM
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I like to gym climb accept it can get really old if u are at the same gym and for 20+ hrs, but it is still fun.
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realdeal39
Sep 11, 2005, 4:09 PM
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I enjoy gyms on a limited basis. Mostly on days when I want to climb but I'm feeling lazy and don't feel like getting all my gear together, finding a partner, untangling my rope, which somehow always manages to get tangled into a huge cluster f--- no matter how much care I had taken to coil it after it's last use, and hiking to a climb. Also when they do a complete overhaul of all the routes I like to spend 2 or 3 days in the gym trying them all out.
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tyler_the_boulderer
Sep 11, 2005, 4:17 PM
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You could call me a gymrat, because i LOVE inddor bouldering and climbing because its great training for the real thing. Also, the rocks dont hurt your hands and it is alot safer than outdoor bouldering by yourself.... Also, its a fun place just to chill with your climbin buddies.... So yes, i do enjoy gym climbing/bouldering
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sesh
Sep 12, 2005, 7:25 AM
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OK, I'm going to try to answer this question seriously ... I have plastic climbs (literally) in my back yard (and I don't have to pay anything for it), and there are almost no outdoor routes in my city more than about 30 ft. high, but I still prefer climbing outdoors to in. Real rock just feels so much better than plastic! And heck, I don't know what kind of gyms you guys have access to, but I find there's MUCH more variety outdoors. Quite apart from the different surfaces you can get (I know of at least 3 different types of sandstone alone), there are all kinds of enormous or tiny cracks in real rocks that you just cant get in a gym. Besides which, after some point in a gym you get to recognise the holds and you know which one has to be held which way. Much better outside where the rock isn't all dotted with bits of pink and green to let you know where to go next. By the way Arjun, climbing upside down is great, but I can show you 25 foot high simple vertical 5.10a's that you'd fall straight off.
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sesh
Sep 12, 2005, 7:28 AM
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In reply to: does anyone else actually ENJOY gym climbing?? Gym climbing apart, I can see you really enjoyed this thread ... must have doubled your number of posts! Go climb some more!
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arjunrattan
Sep 12, 2005, 10:43 PM
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In reply to: By the way Arjun, climbing upside down is great, but I can show you 25 foot high simple vertical 5.10a's that you'd fall straight off. ohhh dont get me wrong. Id choose an overhanging outdoor climb to an overhanging indoor climb anyday. Too bad most overhanging stuff around here is is out of my range for now. Bouldering is def my preference, but I find it too short! plus you dont get the same sense of achievement of reaching the top..the kind you get after completing a route. But yea make no mistake..for now my only goal in climbing is to be the STROGEST climber I can be! So naturally my preference is for stuff that pushes me physically...aka overhanging sport climbs and boulder problems. I find inside alot more conducive to getting real strong real quick.
In reply to: By the way Arjun, climbing upside down is great, but I can show you 25 foot high simple vertical 5.10a's that you'd fall straight off. Sure bring on them 10a's! Id love to give em a try!
In reply to: Gym climbing apart, I can see you really enjoyed this thread ... must have doubled your number of posts! Go climb some more! I have a SIKKKK bouldering cave IN MY HOUSE! and the gym is like a 5 min bike ride! I CLIMB EVERYDAY! :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ..well if not climb...train..something..like if im too sore i do pushups. My housemate is uuubbbber strong....like v10ish climbing. I try to keep up with him.. :roll: :roll: ... But yea all this pursuit of strength is so i can someday go and KILL all them hard routes outside!!!!
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arjunrattan
Sep 12, 2005, 10:47 PM
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Also overhanging sport climbing is more AESTETICALLY pleasing and visually STIMULATING than crimpy slabs...no?? which is partly why i dig it...
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gymslackerclimber
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Do i enjoy it??? where else can you think of, then create, a totally great move/routes.. and create any type of trainning set up you can imagine,,, and easily teach moves and technique,, and make games full of fun, ridiculous, unique moves with your friends... of course i enjoy gym climbing...!!
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