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wildtrail
Aug 17, 2002, 8:08 AM
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Well, then you know nothing about aid climbing, or the fun aspect of it. That is your opinion and you are welcome to it, but I'm telling you this, skipping aiding is skipping fun. Why would you even think that, out of curiosity? Steve
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apollodorus
Aug 17, 2002, 8:20 AM
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Snapier is THE MAN! He's just the sort that will move from A5ing on the boulders to doing up the great walls of tomorrow. How else are you going to get the confidence? By whipping big time air??? And, of course, aid is for weak climbers. So, to all you weak climbers out there, DO PEOPLE REALLY LIKE CAMPING WHERE NOBODY ELSE CAN CAMP? People do. PTPP said it best: the best campsites are for those who climb. Really climb. And even if you climb aid, you still might wind up at a great bivvy that just misses that great grassy spot just off the summit of El Capitan. I guess you have to pick your line carefully. Like a true camper. Winnebago? Need not apply.
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beyond_gravity
Aug 17, 2002, 6:32 PM
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I dont like aid climbing. I'd take free climbing over aid climbing anyday. That being said i'm trying to get alot better at aid climbing. Aid climbing is the key to unlocking the worlds greatest freeclimbing. Oh ya, how do you think that 5.13 sport roof was bolted?
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krustyklimber
Aug 17, 2002, 7:46 PM
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Wow I can't believe I am gonna write this in the Aid Forum... Good point Jeremy! At first I was like "unlocking the worlds greatest freeclimbing" where the heck is he going with this one... And your all right, we may as well hash this out again... To ANYONE who doesn't think you should be on a wall that can't be free climbed YOU are more than welcome to freeclimb on up to Ahwanee Ledge on the Leaning Tower and we'll discuss it all you like! Go get 'em boys Jeff
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stonesquirrel
Aug 17, 2002, 8:49 PM
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yea..i dont kno alot bou aid climbing bein new to the sport...but when i see pictures of it i can only imagion...and i think taht if your not gonna work hard enought to get to that level what is the point in climbing...i mean isnt the goal of every climber to get to the next level... stone squirrel
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stevematthys
Aug 17, 2002, 9:10 PM
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i think aid has its placing like every other aspect of climbing and i think it should be on the walls. without aid you would have to be super good to do many of the big walls through the world. i have gone aid climbing a few times and thought it was pretty cool. i like your point there beyondgravity. how did that 5.13 sport roof get nailed up? oh yea, an aid climber did it!
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freeclmr
Aug 17, 2002, 10:10 PM
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What I find even more amazing than the new 5.14d routes going up is this post that has survived an agonizing 6 months. I am not responding to the troll that stimulated this mindless exchange...I am reacting to the ongoing posting. Like it was stated earlier.....let it die!! And please ignore these pathetic trolls. If I wanted to waste my time on imature nonesense, I would waste my time wading through the slop posted on ST's forum section. Please, let's not sink to tolorating the kind of posts that you find elsewhere. Brian
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blindslap
Aug 17, 2002, 10:23 PM
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think about it. aid climbing has opened so many doors to climbing. Many of the hard free routes we have know were once done with aid. Aid climbing also has inspired many new gear inovations like the splitter 2 cam and the WC zeros, not to mention rps and other small nuts. Without aid we might still be on that insanely hard 5.9 robbins put up.
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