US school siege ends in bloodshed

A gunman and one of the teenage girls he was holding hostage have died after police stormed a school in the US state of Colorado.

The violent end to the siege in the small mountain town of Bailey came after the gunman threatened to harm the two female students he was holding.

The local sheriff said the gunman had shot the hostage and then himself as police attempted to rescue the girls.

The gunman initially seized six girls, but later released four of them.

The injured girl was taken by helicopter to hospital in Denver, where she later died. The other girl was unhurt.

and your school system??? do ppl really hate school that much??? or is it just convenient because they think children/teenagers are an easy target?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/...americas/5387062.stm

The question should be asked, whats is it with wackos in the World. The U.S. isnt the only country with these type of problems.

What is it with wackos in US

May be not, but it seems to happen there with alarming regularity

At least our wackos "only" take kids hostage though, instead of using them as the actual weapons. :?

Now...im from not from the US, but I have often wondered if it has anything to do with easy access to leathal weapons.

Now...im from not from the US, but I have often wondered if it has anything to do with easy access to leathal weapons.

Woman murdered by a wacko with a knife. Cuts her open to "steal" her baby.

New legislation needs to be passed.

Outlaw all knifes.

That should stop this kind of crime in the future.

Let me turn that around:

Ask yourself, if everyone had access to a bomb so powerful it would destroy earth, would someone be wacho enough to use it?

...some would say were not to far from this being reality...


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and your school system??? do ppl really hate school that much??? or is it just convenient because they think children/teenagers are an easy target?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/...americas/5387062.stm

sadly, i have to agree.

i dont think its the access to weapons though. they have similar access to weapons in outer countries (even here, with all the 'gun control', if you really want a gun, you can get it easily enough, legal or not; i bet i could get an AK47 easier than in US and if i want to kidnap someone and die in the process, having an illegal gun is the least of my worries), but their wackos still usually just shoot their own heads off when theyre depressed and dont spread the misery.

I teach at a school about 20 miles from where it happened. Students of mine went to that school last year. Many knew the girl who was killed. It's been an emotional day.

Question for ya Overlord? How much of your news in Celje is about the United States? Do your newspaper print local crime items that happens here in the States. I am just curious?.........Thanks Frank

just like it's easy to get drugs anywhere, it's also easy to get guns anywhere. Gun laws only make it hard to get guns legally. Which isn't hard in the US if you're not a criminal, dead beat dad, psycho, or drug addict. However, guns used in crimes tend to not be of the legally obtained kind. They almost all start out that way, but somewhere along the line, they cross the line and their transfer or use becomes illegal

So let me get this correct...the impression I have that more people die by gunfire in the US than in Europe is wrong?

I would think, that if someone got in an argument with their girlfriend, and was emotionally "out there", there would be a higher risk of a fatality if a gun was lying around in the house.

Now, I know you now will say that there for sure would be a knife in the house, and if there was no gun the knife would be used. I don't believe that, mostly because I think its a lot more personal, up close and bloody/coldblooded to stab someone with a knife until they die.

Feel free to go to http://gunfacts.info/pdfs/gun-facts/4.1/GunFacts4-1-Print.pdf and find you favorite excuse for wanting guns. It's funded by the guys making money off of guns, so you can be sure they will tell you something like the way into heaven is by having more guns than your neighbor or something.

I just never understood the need to have stuff lying around with the sole purpose of killing things.
If some big guy wants to kick my ass, and I don't have a gun he will kick my ass.
If some big guy wants to kick my ass, and everyone have a gun, he will know I have a gun and bring one himself. We can now kill each other and the one alive gets to kick the dead guys ass.

Just a stupid European guys point of view.

Yesterday (really yesterday, not "the other day") a new bank 5-6 blocks from my house was robbed. The guy made his escape through our neighborhood. They found his car at a park in our neighborhood. the path between the two was withing a block of my house.

See, to me your story makes clear the anti-gun argument.

We've already established that criminals seem to have no problem getting hold of guns, so let's assume that your robber has one.

Now why do you need one? To shoot at him as he runs by, provoking an unecessary firefight over insured cash? Wouldn't you be better just staying in your house and out of his way?

I have a friend who shot out his TV while cleaning his weapon. His wife and two kids were home at the time and he is a police officer. Should we now say cops shouldn't be allowed to carry their side arms home? We can play the "what if" games all day long. We can say guns don't kill people, that people kill people and have no gun control at all. We can say that people are bored and uneducated and lets physco analyze these freaks to find the root cause of their malfunctions. But, I think we need to hold people accountable for their actions. Too many criminals are getting too light of sentences because they were abused, picked on, homeless, lost their jobs, wrong meds or the devil told them to do it. Just my thoughts......

But let's imagine that he's not as smart as you reported (pretty smart, by the way) and does break into your house to get your car. Why do you need a gun now? To shoot at an armed man, provoking a firefight in an enclosed space with your family? Wouldn't you be better off giving him your fully insured car?

I think it would be obvious to most people that in the situation you described, adding more guns could only make it worse, and that you have to stretch your mind a long, long way into some kind of bizarre hostage scenario before there's any need at all for you to be waving one around.

See, to me your story makes clear the anti-gun argument.

We've already established that criminals seem to have no problem getting hold of guns, so let's assume that your robber has one.

Now why do you need one? To shoot at him as he runs by, provoking an unecessary firefight over insured cash? Wouldn't you be better just staying in your house and out of his way?

But let's imagine that he's not as smart as you reported (pretty smart, by the way) and does break into your house to get your car. Why do you need a gun now? To shoot at an armed man, provoking a firefight in an enclosed space with your family? Wouldn't you be better off giving him your fully insured car?

I think it would be obvious to most people that in the situation you described, adding more guns could only make it worse, and that you have to stretch your mind a long, long way into some kind of bizarre hostage scenario before there's any need at all for you to be waving one around.

FACTS TO PONDER:

(A) The number of physicians in the U.S. is 700,000.

(B) Accidental deaths caused by Physicians per year are120,000.

(C) Accidental deaths per physician is 0.171.

Statistics courtesy of U.S. Dept of Health Human Services.

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Now think about this:

Guns:

(A) The number of gun owners in the U.S. is 80,000,000.

(YES, that's 80 Million)

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(B) The number of accidental gun deaths per year, all age groups, is 1,500.

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(C) The number of accidental deaths per gun owner is 0.000188.

Statistics courtesy of FBI

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So, statistically, doctors are approximately 9,000 times more dangerous than gun owners.

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Remember, "Guns don't kill people, doctors do."

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FACT: NOT EVERYONE HAS A GUN, BUT ALMOST EVERYONE HAS AT LEAST ONE DOCTOR.

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Please alert your friends to this alarming threat.

We must ban doctors before this gets completely out of hand!!!!!