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brent_e
Jan 5, 2007, 2:04 PM
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I know in Ontario we'll still have some ice in Nipigon in the next few weeks but I was thinking somewhere in the Northeast states. Is there ANYTHING to climb yet? I'm planning a trip and don't want to drive 14 hours to get what I would like!
Anything? Vermont, New York, anywhere?
Thanks for you help.
Brent
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kimgraves
Jan 5, 2007, 2:59 PM
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It's 59 degrees in NYC as I write this. The only ice I know of is in my refrigerator. There is barely any ice on Mt Washington. It's been raining up there.
You can check out NEICE.com for more conditions or see An Inconvenient Truth if you haven't already.
Best, Kim
Edit: Just checked NYICE and people were climbing in Huntington on 1/3. But the forecast is to warm.
In reply to: From the Mt Wash log 1/5/07: Weather has taken a turn for the worse (and absurd) this morning. Low clouds have filled the sky, and rain and fog are threatening. The absurd…temperatures continue to rise, now in the upper 30s, threatening today’s record high of 42. Warm weather should hold tomorrow as well, and with a cooler record of only 37 for the date, midnight should make short work of that tonight!
Might try Katahdin.
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kixx
Jan 5, 2007, 3:02 PM
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What little there was is all coming down this weekend... but if the water keeps running and the temps drop next week it could make up for it... I hope.
From what I hear the best is in northern NH
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jammer
Jan 5, 2007, 3:03 PM
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http://www.neclimbs.com is where you can find recent information for the White Mountains region.
Good Luck ... warmest damn winter in the NE that I can remember ... that's 53 years ...
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brent_e
Jan 5, 2007, 3:55 PM
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Thanks for the info all,
Kim,
I've heard of the inconvenient truth but have yet to watch it. I can't believe it's 60 degrees out.
Kixx,
thanks for the info. I think it will be the weekend of the 13th that we go away, but i'm not certain. Maybe it will be a trip to the gunks?!?! lol
Jammer,
thanks for the neclimbs site. I just heard of that today and will keep my eye on it.
any more info is welcomed!
Thanks
Brent
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tallnik
Jan 5, 2007, 4:49 PM
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Smugglers Notch in VT has had a couple good days...
Forget the states and go to Saguneay in QC, it's in and its fat.
Nik
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kixx
Jan 5, 2007, 4:54 PM
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I'm going to QC end of Jan. How do I find Saguneay?
Chasing the snow and Ice North
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kmc
Jan 5, 2007, 5:15 PM
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It's time to throw in the towel fellows. Come to grips with the fact that we arent going to have a real ice season in the North East. Areas like the Dacks or Smugglers Notch coming in for just a few days at a time, thats more like November conditions, or late season, certainly not January.
I hate to say it, but the best thing to do may be to put the boots, tools, crampons, and screws away until next season and try to salvage the winter by getting out on rock as much as possible. :(
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Jan 5, 2007, 5:33 PM
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Are you serious?
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kimgraves
Jan 5, 2007, 6:22 PM
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kmc wrote: It's time to throw in the towel fellows. Come to grips with the fact that we aren't going to have a real ice season in the North East. Areas like the Dacks or Smugglers Notch coming in for just a few days at a time, that's more like November conditions, or late season, certainly not January.
I hate to say it, but I too think it's going to be hit or miss. We had one good day in the Catskills in early Dec after 2 days of overnight teens. But it hasn't frozen since then. It's currently 58 degrees and raining in Tannersville. And it's now up to 61 degrees in NYC. If it was nice out, this would be great Gunks rockclimbing weather.
Kim
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Jan 5, 2007, 6:58 PM
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Now Now, don't give up yet! I was talking to a ski resort running type friend of mine, and he says the temps should shoot south starting on the 9th and 10th. They're looking forward to making snow. They've lost A LOT of money so far this year as there hasn't been ANY snow at all! (except that mess in October, but that was yuck).
We had a week and change of some pretty nice weather here in the buffalo area. Was in the low 20's high teens, and I checked out Zoar Valley and things were startin to look good. But then it ended and it's been 40-60 for the last..oh..month. This sucks.
But appearantly it's going to get colder. Don't give up!
--Andy P
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Jan 5, 2007, 7:08 PM
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Calabogie and Poisson Blanc near Ottawa were in. Thin, but at least it was frozen. Probably nothing left today (it's +10 Celsius today). Stupid El Nino (or global warming???).
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kmc
Jan 5, 2007, 8:27 PM
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Yes Will, I mean it. January and I still havent been out once the whole season. Things aren't looking pretty.
Im sure someone who is running a ski resort is going to remain even more optimistic than we will, I mean we can at least fall back on rock climbing. Skiing on dirt or rocks isnt even an option, unless of course you ski at Killington. They open trails with a tiny dusting of snow, I mean the amount of snow that isnt even enough to cover all of the rocks.
I really hope I end up eating my words.
~Kevin
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kimgraves
Jan 5, 2007, 9:43 PM
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andypro wrote: Now Now, don't give up yet! I was talking to a ski resort running type friend of mine... They're looking forward to making snow.
If you look at the ski reports, you'll see that all over the East, resorts are reporting that they're 10%, 20% open. It's not even cold enough to make snow. Even Hunter Mountain, where they have more snow making capacity than almost anywhere else, is reporting 45% open with rain coming.
Maybe we'll recover, but I'm not holding my breath.
Instead I'm just buying equiptment. 
Best, Kim
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basilisk
Jan 5, 2007, 11:40 PM
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i think Huntington's Ravine is the best out here so far. i'm hoping to get out there on sunday, i'll report back if i do
anything nice up in quebec or ontario? i need to get my fix somehow, and a roadtrip might be worth it
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Jan 6, 2007, 2:11 AM
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Despite 50 deg temps and a forecast for rain, frustration finally got the better of us and my buddy and I scratched our way up Standard at Frankenstein today. The ice was plastic, but belaying in a running waterfall was a new experience in hydration. We only brought 4 screws up with us, and I wouldn't have wanted to test any of the placements, including the belay anchors.
Later we ran a TR lap on Dracula, also pouring water.
I don't think there'll be much ice left tomorrow...
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basilisk
Jan 6, 2007, 11:49 PM
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how warm was it there today?
we had 70's in southern NH
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kimgraves
Jan 7, 2007, 2:20 AM
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basilisk wrote: how warm was it there today? we had 70's in southern NH
73 degrees at 2pm in NYC. Masha and I went for a walk in tee shirts along Hudson River Park. There were men in shorts and shirtless. Women in tank tops. Everyone was grinning ear-to-ear. Passed by some cherry trees that were in bloom. The daffodils are coming up.
Kim
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brent_e
Jan 8, 2007, 2:17 PM
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basilisk wrote: i think Huntington's Ravine is the best out here so far. i'm hoping to get out there on sunday, i'll report back if i do anything nice up in quebec or ontario? i need to get my fix somehow, and a roadtrip might be worth it
please do. Our objective is to now try mt wash via a gully route of some type.
Been doing some searching but can anyone tell me if stuff is in up there???
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brent_e
Jan 8, 2007, 2:21 PM
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kimgraves wrote: basilisk wrote: how warm was it there today? we had 70's in southern NH 73 degrees at 2pm in NYC. Masha and I went for a walk in tee shirts along Hudson River Park. There were men in shorts and shirtless. Women in tank tops. Everyone was grinning ear-to-ear. Passed by some cherry trees that were in bloom. The daffodils are coming up. Kim
well, go out and work on your tan, Kim. That is terrible weather!!!!
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basilisk
Jan 9, 2007, 3:57 AM
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brent_e wrote: please do. Our objective is to now try mt wash via a gully route of some type. Been doing some searching but can anyone tell me if stuff is in up there???
sadly i didn't make it. partner bailed so i sat at read about everest all day.
everything i'm seeing about washington says it's a go though. there's a report for sunday on neice.com
dwalker wrote: Did Pinnacle on Sunday. some holes and hollow sections, but reasonable ice and good climbing the whole way up. Odell's and the beginning of North looked fat. The tuckerman trail was a bit icy by the end of the day, but there isn't enough snow to avoid trashing crampons if you wear them.
that's a great news all around. i was terrified because this weekend was so warm. i suspect dwalker may be confusing North and Damnnation though. i climbed Damnnation two weeks ago and it was nice, North didn't have a trickle though. the two seem to be easily confused
i can guarantee i'll be climbing next Monday. hopefully in Huntington. naturally i'll do an update when it happens.
let me know if you need a partner for washington or just want another group in the ravine. hell, even just to say hi
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basilisk
Jan 9, 2007, 4:30 AM
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cracklover wrote: Honestly, if you can be flexible, might be worth keeping the Gunks an open option.
ironically i just bought a Gunks guidebook yesterday.
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brent_e
Jan 9, 2007, 2:59 PM
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basilisk wrote: brent_e wrote: please do. Our objective is to now try mt wash via a gully route of some type. Been doing some searching but can anyone tell me if stuff is in up there??? sadly i didn't make it. partner bailed so i sat at read about everest all day. everything i'm seeing about washington says it's a go though. there's a report for sunday on neice.com dwalker wrote: Did Pinnacle on Sunday. some holes and hollow sections, but reasonable ice and good climbing the whole way up. Odell's and the beginning of North looked fat. The tuckerman trail was a bit icy by the end of the day, but there isn't enough snow to avoid trashing crampons if you wear them. that's a great news all around. i was terrified because this weekend was so warm. i suspect dwalker may be confusing North and Damnnation though. i climbed Damnnation two weeks ago and it was nice, North didn't have a trickle though. the two seem to be easily confused i can guarantee i'll be climbing next Monday. hopefully in Huntington. naturally i'll do an update when it happens. let me know if you need a partner for washington or just want another group in the ravine. hell, even just to say hi
Thanks a lot for the beta!!! Looks like we'll try and head there!
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Jan 9, 2007, 3:00 PM
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cracklover wrote: brent_e wrote: Maybe it will be a trip to the gunks?!?! lol Hold that "LOL"! I was climbing in the Gunks on Saturday - it must've been 75. I was hot in a T shirt and long pants. Honestly, if you can be flexible, might be worth keeping the Gunks an open option. GO
We'll bring a rock rack for sure and keep this open!
lol
that would be pretty funny....climb on washington then hit the gunks in a t-shirt on the way home.
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