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woodpecker wrote:
Any advice, tips, etc. is always welcome.

Shoes, harness, rope is not pictured.

5 DMM draws
5 wild country draws
#2, 3, 4 friend
DMM peanuts 1 - 5
wild country ROCK 1 - 10
rockcentric 8 & 9
1 huge sling, 1 med sling (cant remember exact size)Tongue
Put your pic in the post...if you don't know how to do this look at the "Get Markup Help" when you are posting.Wink
You've got a good start. I would work on completing a full set of cams.Cool


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hosh wrote:
So, um, why 3 purple Aliens? Why not a purple, orange and a red or something?

hosh.

I got them each for 25 at REI, and that was the only size they had. I am looking for the other sizes, but waiting for a good deal to come around


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Some recomendations Kane. Sell all except 15 of your sport draws, 10 of your trad draws (almost 60 of them, jesus!), all the tri cams bigger than blue, two of those sets of nuts except for a few doubles in the mid sizes, all of your slung hexes, two of your purple aliens, one of your belay devices, a few of those lockers and full gates, and a couple harnesses.

To buy:

tcu's or more aliens in more sizes, another #3 camalot, a .75 and .5 camalot, maybe some ball nuts, and a couple tanks of gas so you can go use it all.

Seriously you have a lot gear that most would deem useless and you can lighten your load immensley and increase closet space. Heck I'll even buy a blue tricam and one of those aliens off you for a good price!

PS. Loving all the old u-stem camalots. Can't believe you found those old things in such good condition.


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kane_schutzman wrote:
My rack has grown alot since my last picture, it was cleaning and inspection time, and I figured I would post some updated pictures. I have been climbing less than a year, but my pile keeps growing. Enjoy!

Rack minus 3 C4's

Don't you think that 58 draws, of which 38 are sport draws, is a bit excessive??


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Man,

Wow, I was typing how excessive it must be, when you posted. Yes, it is very excessive. Let me ask, will one ever need this many draws, aid, big walls, any reason at all.Nuts are super cheap protection, and it may be more hassle than its worth to sell them.

Enless I end up going overboard on cams, this is what I want.

Doubles in Camalots from Sizes 1-3, Alians for all the smaller sizes, and finally a set of zero's to cover the tiny placements. Would this be something to shoot for? Or is there a better way?

The purple aliens I found need to be sent to CCH, they have the dimple.

One reason I have alll the harnesses and ropes and draws is that I had hoped to get family and friends into climbing.

Saving for gas,

Some tool hit me in the side and totalled my truck a week ago. I get what your saying though. As soon as I graduate I am living at the cray.


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Don't bother with the zeros smaller than say, yellow. Maybe the grey, but the green and purple are useless unless you're doing really small aid and even then, I don't know... Yes! to more camalots and Aliens. NO!!! to selling your hexes, unless it's to get more cams. And the bigger Tri-cams, um, if you like them, then you like them. Tri-cams are pretty useful, and if worse comes to worse, I'd be quicker to bail off a Tri-cam than I would be to bail off a cam (and I've done that before...). You'll NEVER need that many draws. EVER. Even if you're supplying ALL the draws for a climbing party of 6. I'd get rid of all the sport draws, trad draws *can* be used to clip bolts, but I hear they don't like it much. And Sport draws are NOT extendable. If you're paying full price for your gear (most people do...), then I'd say look into the Metolius ultra lights or Wild Country Forged Friends or Tech Friends. Cheaper than Camalots and just about as good. Less range, but so what? I would also NOT suggest you get Max cams or any of the other "extended range" cams until you've got a solid rack. Those cams are nice, but are kinda speciality peices rather than staples. Mountain Gear has TCU's and Power cams on sale, if you don't mind getting the older models, and micro-camalots if you're ok with skipping the Aliens in the interest of price. The micro-camalots aren't that bad and Aliens don't offer much more (except for flexability, which can turn out to be either nothing special or the difference between a bomber placement or a pile of choss). I've got the .3 micro camalot and actually find myself using it more than the green alien (equilvalent size). Keep all the nuts, a little bit excessive? Yes. You'll be happy to have so many if you have to leave them as bail peices? Totally. But other than that, looks like you're a gear whore in training! Way to go! (Seinior in Highschool? good start!)

hosh.


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It's a start. The rope and draws have a full one day's use in them. I won the cam and coredelette and they haven't seen any use yet. They should become progressively less lonely as the year goes on and I start to decide what trad gear I want/need. And maybe a new camera... those shoes still have more yellow than that.
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gr4t wrote:

It's a start. The rope and draws have a full one day's use in them. I won the cam and coredelette and they haven't seen any use yet. They should become progressively less lonely as the year goes on and I start to decide what trad gear I want/need. And maybe a new camera... those shoes still have more yellow than that.

I can't remember if having only one piece of protection constitutes a trad rack?? Even more so when the cordelette is still in the packaging; the rope and draws have seen only one day of climbing. *sigh* Someone take this no0b under their wing, please.

It's a start at least.... We'll need updated photos, of course.


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Dude, at least he's got a helmet, eh?

hosh.


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My Multi-pitch Rack....well ok It is my everything rack....once I get more solid at cracks I think me and some friends and gonna try the creek...

Weight: Total = 30 lbs?

Cost....too much
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kane_schutzman


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Senior in Highschool for about 3 more months! Man there is something about gear that I love, and I know that others have that same feeling. I always, like to try out new biners, and cams, first hand. At least having all those draws, I found that the Omega Pacific JC Wire Gate is the easiest clipping biner I have seen. The 18cm draws twist too much, so now I know what I like is what I am saying.

I will remember all of the above! Its cool to finally be a Gear Whore! Or at least a peon for now.


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What the heck, here ya go.

And no I not going to lay it all out on the floor all pretty like, my wife would have me committed

In the red pack is a 1/2" x 60m static rope and a bunch of steel biners, pulleys, helmet, full body harness and rescue shit.
In the blue Wild Things pack is my trad harness, a 10.2 x 60m Beal rope, shoes, chest harness and rain gear. This pack goes everywhere I do.
The blue and black pack has a 11. x 50m New England rope, two spare harnesses, and 2 more pairs of shoes.
The black pack holds a 10.5 x 60m Mammut.
Half of my trad rack (center) goes on to my aid rack (left) when I go out and play gumby aider. Not in this pic that I just got in a couple of days ago is a pair of Yates wall ladders.


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kane_schutzman wrote:
Its cool to finally be a Gear Whore! Or at least a peon for now.

It's called consumerism, and unfortunatley is known to be the only "American Way" left in our society. Kane, hopefully you'll realize that it's not about how much gear you own, it's how often you use it. Don't go over board on stuff you don't need (only want), go climb often.


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I don't have pics, or a camera, but here's the list:
Ropes:
2x Eldridhalf ropes, 9mm, 50m
1x Eldrid skyline, 10.3mm single, 54m+3m (oops!)
1x Mammut 10.5mm rope, 60m

Petzl Corax harness

DMM Bug belay plate, with belay master srewgate
Petzl Gri-Gri.

3x120cm slings (one mammut thin one)
5 loose screwgates (for slings etc.)

Pro:

HB flexifit cams:
0, 1, 1.5, 2, 2.5, 4, 5

HB quadcams:
00, 0.5, 3

Black Diamond Camalots:
0.4, 0.5, 0.75, 3, 3.5, 6

Black Diamond C3's:
000

Trango MaxCam:
size 2

Assorted nuts (HB curves, WC rocks, DMM nuts):
2x1
1x2
2x3
3x4
3x5
2x6
3x7 (one on cord)
2x8
2x9
1x10

Micro nuts:
BD size 1 micro
BD size 2 micro
Booty BD micro size 3

WC hex size 5(?) red. [fixxed that a few months ago... uops]

prussicks etc.

quickdraws:
short:
2xclog wires on dyneema
3x mountain tech wires
4x HB dragons
2x HB dragon pro

Medium:
1x Clog wire on dyneema

long:
3x HB dragon
2x Clog wires on dyneema

BD sabretooth crampons
DMM venom axes

Petzl ecrin roc helmet.

5.10 anasazi's
red chilli x-cubes [sized up for socks for cold days :)]

And some other assorted gear I cannae think of.

-Magnus


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moose_droppings wrote:
What the heck, here ya go.

And no I not going to lay it all out on the floor all pretty like, my wife would have me committed
She needs to lighten up!Wink So what is the level with the blue lines on it for?


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Just like everyone marks there gear, in construction we mark our tools.


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punk_rocker333 wrote:
kane_schutzman wrote:
Its cool to finally be a Gear Whore! Or at least a peon for now.

It's called consumerism, and unfortunatley is known to be the only "American Way" left in our society. Kane, hopefully you'll realize that it's not about how much gear you own, it's how often you use it. Don't go over board on stuff you don't need (only want), go climb often.

Honestly,

Sadly enough, buying gear is the closest that I can get too climbing right now. I know, I already have way too much for myself, personally.


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well stop buying draws a month ago and start buying more cams! I'd say you need more trad gear than sport draws at this point. NO MORE DRAWS, you hear? :)

hosh.


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hosh wrote:
well stop buying draws a month ago and start buying more cams! I'd say you need more trad gear than sport draws at this point. NO MORE DRAWS, you hear? :)

hosh.

Seriously! If trad is where it's at for you, sell all but 15 of the sport draws and use the money for some new cams.

Why the heck did you buy 58 sport draws? You can clip entire bolted multi-pitch routes with that many draws. Heck, you need a chest harness just to rack them all!


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punk_rocker333 wrote:
kane_schutzman wrote:
Its cool to finally be a Gear Whore! Or at least a peon for now.

It's called consumerism, and unfortunatley is known to be the only "American Way" left in our society. Kane, hopefully you'll realize that it's not about how much gear you own, it's how often you use it. Don't go over board on stuff you don't need (only want), go climb often.

that's the attitude of someone who only has 2 cams! Albeit well used cams.

Laugh


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this guy totally wins Shocked

http://www.needlesports.com/...museum/camsstory.htm

sweet site on protection history


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jeremy11 wrote:
[image]http://www.needlesports.com/nutsmuseum/art/nutsmuseum.jpg[/image]

this guy totally wins Shocked

http://www.needlesports.com/...museum/camsstory.htm

sweet site on protection history

Holy crap... I don't even know what to attempt to say at this. I get excited that I can afford a set of nuts... but dang.


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jeremy11 wrote:
[image]http://www.needlesports.com/nutsmuseum/art/nutsmuseum.jpg[/image]

this guy totally wins Shocked

http://www.needlesports.com/...museum/camsstory.htm

sweet site on protection history

I know its a museum and not his active rack....but that's freak's hot!


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Are you saying that I only have 2 cams? I was thinnking it would relate best to a guy talking about his you know what. "It's not the size man, it's how you use it."


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[quote "gumbyinahumvee"]What do you guys use to wipe the cum off your gear when you are masturbating and not climbing???


Brokeback[/quote]

Your mouth.

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