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stymingersfink
Aug 19, 2007, 12:44 AM
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sittingduck wrote: stymingersfink wrote: MONKEY5 wrote: hey tisar what are other types of techniques to work on to get to be a better climber Not tisar, but I've a feeling he might agree with what I'm about to say...
READ MORE... SPEAK LESS!
once you have spent enough time to discover what you do not know, it becomes the time to ask questions. when it is obvious that one has not reached the true point of asking questions, all they're doing is flapping their gums. perhaps that point was lost on you? oh well.
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Lethal-Climber
Aug 21, 2007, 5:36 PM
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Thanks for the quick 101!
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JRHROCK
Aug 31, 2007, 8:43 PM
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I have listened to what you have written. Alot of it makes sense right off the bat. Other things I will have to become better to understand. Would you know how I can keep my hands dry? They are always sweaty. Is there anything else you can offer for advice, I am naturtally good at clibming, but I am also 225lbs. It is alot to handle. But maybe some help on some exercise routines would be good.
Thanks.
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madkiki
Sep 20, 2007, 12:40 PM
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I work in a climbing gym at the local YMCA and do not climb outdoors at all. Everything I know is from my experience working indoors at our gym.
I agree with everything in the training guide for noobs except one thing. The part about Women being natural climbers. That is not right at all. It does not matter if you are male or female, young or old. The guide does mention the word EFFICIENCY, and that explains it all.
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allroy71
Nov 1, 2007, 12:10 AM
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Great guide. I feel like an imbecile for posting before reading this!!!
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gunkiemike
Nov 1, 2007, 1:57 AM
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3 things you can do when you get the urge to do SOMETHING to advance your climbing, but you can't run out to the gym (maybe you just went there, or your ride is unavailable, or it's 11:30 PM. You get the idea):
1) Go for a 3 mile jog/run.
2) Lie down on the floor and do 50 crunches. Crunches are one of the most underrated exercises for climbing IMO. If they're too easy, do them with your legs elevated 10" off the floor with a 10-20 lb weight on your chest.
3) Walk away from the nacho chips/ice cream/beer.
Personally, I find #1 and 3 a lot harder than #2. 
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tlong50
Nov 5, 2007, 3:08 AM
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I think that the question of when a new climber should start leading is entirely dependent on each individual climber. Everyone has different natural physical and mental abilities to start. I've seen people that have no problem leading 5.10 sport after a month or two of climbing and others that I wouldn't trust to lead anything. It just depends on the person.
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andypro
Nov 5, 2007, 3:35 AM
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my current partner refuses to lead anything. I guess it's just not his time yet. Of course we've been climbing together for..oh...10 FREAKIN YEARS! But whatever. I don't push him to do it if he doesn't want to. Sure, I pick on him, but it's all in good fun. Maybe one day.
He's just not confident in his abilities to place gear. I've taught him the basics, and he's played with it quite extensively...Can build one hell of an anchor....Just wont take the sharp end. He can follow anything I can lead and unstuck the most welded ballnut. I'd rather have a living and happy climbing partner than a freaked out, pissed off, dead friend.
--Andy P
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chilli
Nov 25, 2007, 7:40 PM
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first, i'd have to agree with taino that it is a bad idea for any daisy fresh climbers to ride the sharp end without getting some good experience FIRST (either TR or following). i like the thread overall. n00bs, please, don't lead without somone experienced with you who can give you advice for the first few times. be safe.
Nicely put together, tisar. i'm really glad to see some constructive and supportive information provided to the new climbers out there.
admittedly, the negativity that is becoming rampant on the RC forum was beginning to get me down.
building this sort of supportive climate is an intitiative i'd like to see more of.
(This post was edited by chilli on Nov 25, 2007, 7:42 PM)
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viper720
Dec 9, 2007, 6:00 AM
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Excellent, I just started climbing recently after swimming for a while and it really helped when I started.
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kricir
Dec 9, 2007, 6:56 AM
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In reply to: Imitate animals (skip the elephant, your trunk just won’t do it). |
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dta95b7r
Dec 9, 2007, 2:23 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: As a well qualified n00b, you are allowed to make mistakes which include dropping your n00be partner on TR, lead and sports and your fu8kup will be dismissed under n00b’s law. Other the hand, experienced leaders, sports or TR climbers, please do not choose a n00b to belay you at any cost.
Thats just umm wow.
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ts83
Dec 10, 2007, 1:31 AM
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kricir wrote: In reply to: Imitate animals (skip the elephant, your trunk just won’t do it). Hey buddy, speak for your self, maybe your trunk won't, if so thats a bummer.
I suppose it all depends on the size of the crack you're trying to jam. 
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gadkins1974
Dec 12, 2007, 5:10 PM
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This is still a great post. I try to read it every single time I come onto the site. At some point, I want it to become like a mantra to me. What I like most is that it's pretty much common sense, something that can so easily be forgotten in the rush of a new experience. :)
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lg0782
Mar 6, 2008, 11:22 AM
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awesome information, much appreciated for making it a sticky!
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cuddlefish
Mar 24, 2008, 1:29 AM
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thanks so much for the tips!
i especially like this one-
"Try looking good while climbing. Elegance rules and helps you to develop a better body consciousness."
i took ballet for years and have definitely noticed that remembering my dance training helps me climb more smoothly. when i start having trouble it is usually because i've gotten myself into some unnecessarily awkward position. body awareness is very helpful! thanks again!
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rockclimbergabor
Mar 24, 2008, 2:12 AM
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Walk up to the route. Look up, scope the holds and sequences, then do whatever feels natural to get to the top. dont worry yet about looking good or climbing efficiently. developing your natural movement and climbing instinct is way more important then trying to climb like someone else. this will develop over time. for now, try not to concentrate too much. free your mind, let the free energy flow.
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alexanderS
Apr 6, 2008, 7:54 PM
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whats goin on, im alex, my cusin asked me to go up to the adirondacks with him this summer for 2 weeks, he's been climbing for about three years or so but i want to have a little bit of knowledge before i go so he doesnt have to teach me everything, ive done it in the past a little but not alot. im just wondering what kind of shit should i know and what gear should i bee looking out for
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decnet
Apr 7, 2008, 4:11 PM
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Thanks! It's very straightforward and useful hints
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joswald
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What is cardio strength? This seems like an oxymoron
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michaelsanford
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One word of caution I'd add for new climbers, one I wish I'd received when I was 9: don't crank everything.
You only need to grip a hold hard enough to keep you from slipping off it, no more. Over-gripping (cranking) will kill your forearms and fingers, get you pumped, and end your afternoon early.
(Sure, there are circumstances where you may need to crank, but those are the rare times that the minimum force required to stick it is also the maximum force you are capable of applying .)
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traviswhite1988
Jun 17, 2008, 3:30 AM
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Thanks for the information tisar, I'm just getting into rock climbing and unfortunately don't know any body near by who does it also but i'm trying to get a bunch of friends into it, so the books and some of this information should be very helpful!
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Jun 30, 2008, 1:02 PM
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We just returned from a trip to Utah, including staying in Moab for 3 days. My wife bought me a several hour climbing trip for my 40th birthday - I had a blast. I've always been interested in climbing, and figured it would be a natural hobby progression as I am a backpacker.
I've recently bought a BD harness, Petzel Ecrin helmet, BD ATC Guide belay device and a Petzel tiblock. Already had some bieners. I'm holding on shoes until I get back to the local gym to try different ones out & get some advice. Any other must-haves?
Interesting reading...
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LadyAutumn
Jul 28, 2008, 3:44 AM
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Great thread thank you very much, I am certainly going to be trying to be like different animals next time I am in the Gym! 
now how does that song go .... you've got to fly like an eagle, prowl like a lion in Africa, leap like a salmon home from the sea, to keep up with me, you've got to walk like a panther tonight You know you are all gonna be singing it next time you are on the wall/rock/dancefloor!
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