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camhead
Oct 17, 2008, 5:38 PM
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sad. I should order some back issues or something.
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areyoumydude
Oct 17, 2008, 5:41 PM
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Thank god we still have Urban Climber. Best mag ever.
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sungam
Oct 17, 2008, 5:50 PM
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heh..hu... *shudder*
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bjohnson2
Oct 17, 2008, 5:55 PM
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That sucks, I just started reading Alpinist, Their special issue highlighting El Cap in 25 was awsome, I was looking forward to future issues.
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boymeetsrock
Oct 17, 2008, 6:17 PM
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camhead wrote: sad. I should order some back issues or something. Um did i miss the joke or did they actually stash some back issues before the barn burned down? I think as consumers we're all SOL. Too bad though, i really love the mag, and was looking forward to renewing my subscription.
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camhead
Oct 17, 2008, 6:51 PM
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boymeetsrock wrote: camhead wrote: sad. I should order some back issues or something. Um did i miss the joke or did they actually stash some back issues before the barn burned down? I think as consumers we're all SOL. Too bad though, i really love the mag, and was looking forward to renewing my subscription. shit, I forgot about that, no joke. We are SOL. I was just looking through one of my back issues last night; I subscribed for their first three years, and was thinking about how I should resubscribe.
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rogue10186
Oct 17, 2008, 8:15 PM
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FEck! I just subscribed a month or two ago! (so what happens to the rest of my subscription?) Got issue 25 in the mail about two weeks ago, but haven't gotten the chance to read it (damn schoolwork). This sucks, I hope they're able to survive! Alpinist is a great mag...
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flipnfall
Oct 17, 2008, 8:24 PM
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CRAP!!!!!1One GT
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zeke_sf
Oct 17, 2008, 8:46 PM
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anthonymason wrote: Years ago when I was young I could not afford a magazine that cost $12.95. that would translate into four biners' $13? I always knew there was a reason I never bought it. So, yeah, I was the casual bookstore thumber of their pages, but it seems like there's not another widely distributed rag that will immediately make up for that loss.
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reno
Oct 18, 2008, 7:31 AM
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chriswatford wrote: So, Urban Climber survives and Alpinist goes under? Something is really wrong. Alpinist was a great mag. Agreed. (Just curious, but are you the same Chris Watford that wrote Dixie Climber's Atlas? If so, thanks... the first version was one of my inspirations to start climbing. Lost Wall, in Lafayette, GA.)
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curt
Oct 18, 2008, 7:40 AM
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camhead wrote: sad. I should order some back issues or something. Issue 12 was the best of course. Curt
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reno
Oct 18, 2008, 7:46 AM
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Lemme guess.... Fountainbleu?
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jaablink
Oct 18, 2008, 8:00 AM
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qwert
Oct 18, 2008, 2:03 PM
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i dont know alpinist, so i cant really say if it could be a replacement, but the french magazine vertical is really nice. also printed in a german, an italian and an english version. http://www.vertical-magazine.com When it first came out in german, i was totally amazed. Of course they do have advertisements and stuff, but really great articles. Not about the new, hip 5.16 sports mekka, but pieces about historic, alpine routes, portraits about climbers and such, and alway one area as the focus of the issue. (and of course a always a bit of sport and bouldering, but not much). However i dont know how to get it in the US, and its focusd on europe. But maybe that could be a suggestion for some. It is so hard to find a decent magazine. I dont mind a few ads, and the occasional beginners guide, or report about climbing competitions, but if it becomes the main thing .... but sadly thats what most people want? is that urban climber cover really real? qwert
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chriswatford
Oct 18, 2008, 2:14 PM
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Hey Reno, yep that's me. Glad you enjoy the guidebook! We have some great climbing down here in the Deep South huh?
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roninthorne
Oct 18, 2008, 2:22 PM
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As long as America's climbing population is predominately made up of shirtless, self-promoting, beanie-wearing, slackline walking, product-loyal gymbies who move in great media-directed herds from one "destination area" to another, who spend more on coffee than they do on gear and who write checks to avoid actually preserving the crags by getting their hands dirty (or protesting and getting arrested), class acts like Alpinist are doomed to failure. Who wants to know what the hardest climbers of Europe are sending when we could be reading more articles about how (insert famous young climber's name) is (insert activity completely peripheral to climbing but rather hip like meditating, painting, or playing flute) before shredding (insert uber-cool name of climb consisting of 30 or more brutal moves that don't get you ten yards off the deck, requiring superhuman obsession and tendon strength, and almost guaranteeing eventual arthritis, bursitis, and tendonitis)? Don't you want to spend your rain/rest days reading about some young staff slacker at one of the rags getting to hang out with his coolest heroes in some bar, with nary a word of climbing tween intro and finis? Or hear about how great someplace off in the middle of Fumbuk is for all the people who can afford the $7,000 cost of going there to climb nothing but 5.12 and harder for a week? Geez... you'd think you people had standards or something.... On a personal note, I'm gonna miss that mag. It was, in my opinion, the only climbing mag worth reading in a long time.
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apoorva
Oct 18, 2008, 3:03 PM
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<choke> Not kidding, I thought that was what all magazines should aspire to - not product placement and frenetic attention-grabbing promotions, but real reportages. Obviously, Maxim / Blender / whatever is the model that works. What I found amusing - Alpinist shuts down, and "Deadpoint magazine" starts up. A day in the life of the publishing industry...
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rogue10186
Oct 18, 2008, 6:11 PM
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That is true, Vertical is a decent mag, not on the same level as alpinist, but way better than urban climber and the others out there. Climbing is decent sometimes, but lately, it's been drifting to something closer to urban climber.
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reno
Oct 18, 2008, 9:38 PM
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chriswatford wrote: Hey Reno, yep that's me. Glad you enjoy the guidebook! We have some great climbing down here in the Deep South huh? That's a fact. Mescaline Daydream at Tallulah is one of my top 10 all time favorites. Keep up the good work, Chris.
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grubbjasona
Oct 20, 2008, 4:34 PM
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No doubt Alpinist was a great mag. However, the magazine industry is in fact a business and as far as business sense goes, not having advertisers to offset the exorbitant costs of printing is just plain stupid. With the publisher bank rolling the entire operation with private funding... it was doomed to fail.
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Arrogant_Bastard
Oct 20, 2008, 4:37 PM
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grubbjasona wrote: No doubt Alpinist was a great mag. However, the magazine industry is in fact a business and as far as business sense goes, not having advertisers to offset the exorbitant costs of printing is just plain stupid. With the publisher bank rolling the entire operation with private funding... it was doomed to fail. Ah yes, the black and white. God forbid that someone do something out of the love for it.
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grubbjasona
Oct 20, 2008, 4:46 PM
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Exactly.. may god have mercy on them.
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lwilson
Oct 20, 2008, 4:47 PM
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I am totally speechless.
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stonefox
Oct 20, 2008, 5:00 PM
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Whoa! What's gonna happen to Surfer's Journal then? -it's from the same peeps...
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thatguyat99
Oct 20, 2008, 6:27 PM
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Man that sucks...
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