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Poll: Your Perfered Anchors Setup
Old School Tie in using the rope 14 / 27%
Web-o-let 6 / 12%
Cord-o-let 27 / 52%
PAS 5 / 10%
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ken21il


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Whats your fav way to build the next belay anchor? What do you use? What type of knots do you like to use for those quick set-ups?

BOLTS:
I like to use the double bowline at a two bolt anchor, throw in a 3 piece on a clove hitch as a multi directional option.

TRAD PRO:
I will use a Cord-o-let to make it wasy and fast.


brownie710


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usually cordalette, sometimes double length runner with a shoulder length


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I normally use a double length runner for bolts and a cord-o-death for gear anchors.

Sometimes I'll just use the rope depending on the situation. In general I like to be able to escape the anchor with out untying from the rope.


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I have a web-o-lette, cordollette, alpine equalizer and I find that I always go with a double legth runner and some of the dental floss BD or Mammut runners, for either trad or sport. The times my gear was spaced out farther apart I've gone with a 20 foot cordellete.


kennoyce


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I generally use a web-o-death for multipitch trad anchors because it's fast and easy, and I make sure all my pieces are bomber, so I don't worry about the non equalization of the web-o-let. I also will just use slings on occasion.


evanwish


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here's an anchor i had to set in some really
sh!tty broken and decomposing rock.. thank god for chordalet...



Left to right: Slung Flake, 0.1 Old BD microcam, #2 C4, #1 C3, out of the picture right a #2 micronut.

it was accually extremely bomber but it would have been extremely difficult to equalize that without a chordalete..


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krosbakken


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for bolts I use shoulder slings or my pas.

for trad, I always use the cord o let.


el_layclimber


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I clove hitch my wee-wee to a chickenhead.


jsj7051


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brownie710 wrote:
usually cordalette, sometimes double length runner with a shoulder length

I have a Mammut sling thats 8' , about the size of 2 doubles and a Mnt. Tool 13 footer (400cm) for wide gear anchors.


ja1484


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My preferred anchors setup is "bomber".

Polls like this are pointless. There are infinite potential situations with infinite potential solutions.


JAB


Dec 17, 2008, 6:49 AM
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I usually use the equall-ell-elletté, but that was not even a poll option. Mad


ken21il


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Sorry no photos i dont even have a camera, and i just get tired of ppls sarcastic answers its not really worth them posting because no one wants to read them but i guess the is a RC.com forum-


Partner climbinginchico


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So that's a slung flake which then had a cam placed behind it serving to pry it off the wall as it's weighted. Interesting selection, I'm surprised majid hasn't commented. I realize a .1 isn't going to pry much but sometimes a couple mm is all it takes.


fresh


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I use this thing:

http://supertopo.com/...msg=515407#msg515407

I find it easier than the equalette cuz the clip-in point is simpler, there's no fucking around with sliding x's. it's more complicated to tie than the cordlette, but you don't need pre-tied double fisherman's knots.

but sometimes it's simpler to tie in with the rope too.


knieveltech


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evanwish wrote:
here's an anchor i had to set in some really
sh!tty broken and decomposing rock.. thank god for chordalet...



Left to right: Slung Flake, 0.1 Old BD microcam, #2 C4, #1 C3, out of the picture right a #2 micronut.

it was accually extremely bomber but it would have been extremely difficult to equalize that without a chordalete..

1. that shit isn't equalized worth a damn

2. it would be if you'd used an equalette

3. have a nice day


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majid_sabet


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ken21il wrote:
Sorry no photos i dont even have a camera, and i just get tired of ppls sarcastic answers its not really worth them posting because no one wants to read them but i guess the is a RC.com forum-

I am very interested to see how you rig your anchor and personally do not care what other people say about you or your post. I think you are a valuable contributor to this climbing community and we could defiantly benefit from your experience. See if you could barrow a camera from a friend or something and post a photo of your setup.


evanwish


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climbinginchico wrote:
So that's a slung flake which then had a cam placed behind it serving to pry it off the wall as it's weighted. Interesting selection, I'm surprised majid hasn't commented. I realize a .1 isn't going to pry much but sometimes a couple mm is all it takes.

no i hear you, it looks like its part of the flake but really it was in a section of the crack on the right wall.. its tough to describe, but it wasn't in a position where it would be pushing on the flake.

i used dynamic chord so used longer legs for the not so good pieces and shorter legs for the good ones. [notice the blue static sling clipped to the flake]



knieveltech wrote:
1. that shit isn't equalized worth a damn

2. it would be if you'd used an equalette

3. have a nice day

acctually it was equalized perfectly if you take into acount which were the best pieces. plus i seem to recall having my ass wedged inside a wide crack..

i acctually lowered off the anchor to clean a piece at the base of the pitch.


evanwish


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the two short strands of green/yellow chord were the most bomber pieces, the others were suplimentary.

Read the guidebook for the "route" it says, "dangerously broken rock, not recomended" IMO that's a great anchor under the circumstances...

cause talkin shit [about a situation you didn't see for yourself cause you're on the internet] is dangerous in person.



fresh


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evanwish wrote:
acctually it was equalized perfectly if you take into acount which were the best pieces.
even when you take into account the fact that the cordelette doesn't provide equalization?


knieveltech


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evanwish wrote:
the two short strands of green/yellow chord were the most bomber pieces, the others were suplimentary.

Read the guidebook for the "route" it says, "dangerously broken rock, not recomended" IMO that's a great anchor under the circumstances...

cause talkin shit [about a situation you didn't see for yourself cause you're on the internet] is dangerous in person.
[image]http://forum.cheatengine.org/files/ethug_572.jpg[/image]

Your reply would be a witty burn if any of it was actually valid. Move the MP of a cordalette an eighth of an inch off of plumb from the direction it was tied for and you're weighting a single piece. This isn't opinion. This isn't random conjecture. This is fact based on controlled testing. Even in ideal lab conditions a cordolette offers crap equalization unless the arms are identical in length (obviously not the case from your picture). Ergo, the anchor pictured is poorly equalized. Carry on.

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