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blueeyedclimber
Dec 4, 2002, 5:08 PM
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I am starting to lead and do not have very much equipment. I am a teacher and can't afford to just go out and buy a rack. What are the first pieces of pro that I should have?
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mountainmonkey
Dec 4, 2002, 5:09 PM
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Find an experienced climber with gear that you can climb with and he/she can mentor you.
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cass
Dec 4, 2002, 5:17 PM
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Can you be more specific i.e. trad or sport. You need a lot more gear for trad than sport.
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cyberclimber
Dec 4, 2002, 5:26 PM
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This has come up before, and the consensus is: Start with a set of nuts, then get some larger hexes, then double up on the nuts you use alot, then invest in cams. Even rradam, who trad leads stuff to make me drool, still uses nuts 90% of the time. Unless you are climbing desert sandstone, this beginners rack will get you started and up most of the climbs you run across.
Try to find a local mentor before you expand your rack past the basics since what you will need is really dictated by where and what you climb.
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wlderdude
Dec 5, 2002, 1:01 AM
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It depends on where you climb.
Start by adding your home town to your user profile, then describe the kind of climbing you want to be doing.
Odds are someone here has climbed where you want to climb and can give you some advice on what and what not to buy and where to buy it.
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tradklime
Dec 5, 2002, 4:03 AM
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If you are talking sport, just some quickdraws.
If you are talking trad, in my opinion, don't bother with Hexes. Others will disagree but they're wrong. A set of nuts and a set of cams is the way to go.
Check out acmeclimbing.com for good gear at low prices.
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tim
Dec 5, 2002, 4:12 AM
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A stretcher, unless you know what you're doing.
Why not lead on your partners('s) rack for a while and see what pieces you can't do without? Anyone here who gives you some generic advice is overlooking the fact that WHERE you climb most, strongly affects WHAT gear you need.
With all due respect, a lot of people here are giving out bad or useless advice.
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funktimonious
Dec 5, 2002, 8:59 AM
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^^^^
I find that to be the case in 80% of the threads on this site.
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wildtrail
Dec 5, 2002, 12:18 PM
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Don't buy cams. You get a lot more bang for the buck buying nuts and hexes to begin with. That's if you are going trad.
Sport, just get your basic quick draws.
Steve
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freudian
Dec 5, 2002, 12:28 PM
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Freudian's 2 cents:
1. Get a more experienced climber to assist you in your journey to leading.
2. Buy Quickdraws and a set of nuts
Then once you are leading on nuts, u may have saved up more dineros to buy small cams.
Freudian
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tradklime
Dec 5, 2002, 4:08 PM
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It was bad advice to suggest nuts and cams. They are such specialized pieces and are rarely used.
The original post was asking opinions on what to buy first. Yes, time and time again we suggest to climb with someone experienced and take their advice or make up your mind, but perhaps he already has and is looking for other opinions.
Fact of the matter is, if you are trad leading, you will not be sorry to have a set of nuts and a set of cams, no matter where you climb. That is my opinion on what should be the backbone of any rack.
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flamer
Dec 5, 2002, 7:14 PM
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I agree with Mr. Klime...
Having climbed a lot of different places on pretty much every type of rock- All anybody ever needs is nuts and cams. Sure you can place other stuff but nuts and cams are more versitile.
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