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eric


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Here, here,

Why why why why? Please tell me why you think this is a good idea? Is it cute, does it make you feel better? What possible purpose does this serve?

Just a few reasons:

  1. I listen to tunes on my computer and it sounds like a bad acid trip when your tuneage mixes with mine.
  2. I'm at work and the boss is around the corner but I'm looking up route info on RC.com
  3. My browser barfs on that page so I can't get any route info
  4. It makes b.com look professional
  5. I don't like your choice in music
  6. I'm concerned for your future. It's like, bad karma dude


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Yeah I agree, for some of your reasons and because, MIDI renditions of rock songs have never been one of my favorites.

Lets just add BLINK TAGS all over the damn place.

edited to say: Good <BLINK> has been disabled!!!

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Yeah, I second khanom's #2 reason....


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But rrrAdam is so PROUD to be so ANNOYING !!!111



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Quote:It makes b.com look professional.


Just a quick note about this.

We just upgraded to phpbb2.0.3...

Y'all might want to check your code and make sure the duct tape is still holding together the older modules.


andy_lemon


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[embed src="http://hits.mididb.com/20021108/Manson_Marilyn/Sweet_Dreams.mid" width=145 height=55 autostart=false loop=true]
[noembed]
[bgsound src="http://hits.mididb.com/20021108/Manson_Marilyn/Sweet_Dreams.mid" loop=infinite]
[/noembed]



Bouldering.com is professional...

Edited by Khanom: autostart=false

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The music stays... but I'm up for suggestions as far as improvements go. Anyone know of a good .wav files lieing around? Anyone know how to add mp3's?


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I agree with reason #3. I can't get to any route info just music.

Jeff


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Does anybody realy have a problem with their browser not loading the page with the background music added ???

If so, I will remove it.

I was only trying to annoy the "Professional B.com Texans".


eric


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[ol type="1" start="7"]
  • Even if you happen to like the music, the same tune is annoying over and over again.
  • Adds, on average, another 30-40k to the download. For those on dialup connections, that makes a difference


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    Many good points brutha... Removed.


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    I was able to access the routes dBase in INDIANA, CALIFORNIA and SOUTH CAROLINA, no problems here, and I was listening to some tunes on all of them...

    Only mildly annoying, I have a volume control...

    Or a mute button!


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    Music in web pages like this is an evil, look at me i know html thing middle school kids did in the mid 90s. Please don't do it here.


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    I thought I had stumbled into some asswipe's dog sweater page. Then Mozilla choked on the California page. I don't much care for pop-up ads or people reformatting my hard drive, so I don't run Internet Explorer.

    Color me unimpressed. How about spending the same amount of time reorganizing the structure of the CA page so that it is possible to *find* obscure areas like Yosemite, Tuolumne, Joshua Tree, etc. and readily edit them...


    B.com, while updated to phpBB 2.03, also posesses stellar content such as ADUMPINTHEWOODS and attracts luminaries from all over (all over Austin, TX, that is).

    My favorite b.com moment was when some new user asked about John Gill's problems and was referred to rc.com to speak with The Man himself. That was priceless.

    It becomes harder to do upgrades when you have content that is not easily disposable (eg. users writing things that consist of phrases other than 'chuff', 'f---', 'shit', and the like). Unfortunately there is actually the occasional morsel worth preserving on rc.com and that makes it tougher.



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    go shovel some snow, CHUFFER!

    jesus...


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    If it isn't music to everone's ears, it "sounds" to me (pun) that it's probably better left to the imagination of the listening viewer. If it slows the download for visitors, then it becomes a hindrance to the site.

    Should we at least require, if someone has music on their page, that the "autostart" feature be disabled, as Khnom did?


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    Hmm.

    You made my crossover plugin start up winblows quicktime to play the midi file.

    Midi files suck ass on any normal computer, unless you have a GOOD midi bank hooked to your soundcard (which, I ensure you, 99.999999% of the people don't).

    So, kill it.

    - d.

    P.S> You added 5 seconds to the load time of the first post page because moz had to load wineserver. Die.


    krustyklimber


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    Yes Adam,

    It doesn't seem to work on my computer, I only have 32 MB of Ram and 56k dial-up.

    The music was too annoying to wait more than about two minutes for my page to load, so I gave up before it just wouldn't do it. Two minutes is about my limit for a page to load.

    I appreciate your effort to make it fly, but just like on an alpine climb we are sorta limited to the speed of our slowest members... I guess you could always just cut the rope and leave us to die... LOL

    Thanks

    Jeff


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    Couple of things...

    First off, 32mb of ram... sucks. Sorry, brah.

    Secondly, music embedded into webpages is about the most annoying thing on the web. Thanks for again realizing I am correct and kotowing to my needs. (read: the needs of the general usership)

    Finally, while the content of b.com might not be as sterile and boring as debating the benefits of an atc vs. the grigri over and over again, there IS content there. If you start a thread regarding boldering, you get a good answer. And like many movies demonstrate, a good answer can contain the work f--- (OMFG! REALLY ?!?!?!)... If you don't like certain forums, the you won't visit them, kinda like... uhh... here. Where you prolly don't visit EVERY FORUM every time you come to post up.

    In other words, if I want to talk boldering, I'd sure as hell like to do it where people aren't arguing about what it means to "dyno." And I have a difficult time understanding why John Gill would participate in such sophomoric discourse, but I wouldn't be so crass and shitty as to judge him on his participatory choice.

    Of course, if all you care about is which 5.8s and 5.9s are cool at Jtree... you might wanna stay here, where the forums are held together with virtual duct tape and the exadmin admin who still has admin privis may or may not be trying to cross reference your rc.com password against your known email addresses.

    All this is good for, of course, is a laugh.

    And yeah, if you were wondering, phpbb2.0.3 looks hella sweet, especially with about a dozen different display schemes to choose from...



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    I never claimed that the majority of postings at either b.com or rc.com were worth reading. The level of discourse on either site could be charitably described as slightly better than USEnet... although some of the more interesting wreck-dot regulars seem to have migrated here.

    PHPBB2 does rule, however, if you subscribe to bugtraq you already know that even phpbb 2.0.3 has cross-site scripting bugs that are not fixed. Maybe in CVS, though I don't know for sure. I should check on beta.rc.com and see if there's an obvious patch for this that we can merge back into the main phpbb2 tree.

    B.com is more fun than rc.com, which would explain the large number of crossover users, but the fundamental problem is that you're never going to get Ammon, John Gill, or anybody really interesting (maybe Jeff Jackson, if you're lucky) regularly participating in a discussion there. Great fun, but my point about the occasional archival-quality nugget (eg. jgill's clarifications of his problems vs. Holloway's in historical perspective, Ammon's topos for obscure A4 routes, etc.) causing difficulty in upgrading still stands.

    Why on earth do you have telnet open on your webserver if you're concerned about security, by the way? Hurricane Electric is a nice colo and all, but ports 23, 111, 513, 514, and 1024 are all wide open on your host. You get a lot of mileage out of telnet, nfs, rlogin, rsh, and kdm?


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    "...My favorite b.com moment was when some new user asked about John Gill's problems and was referred to rc.com to speak with The Man himself. That was priceless."

    Could you please send me the link to that "priceless moment"? That is pretty funny.


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    Went to the Bookstore tonight... copied endless accounts of html code to supstitute mp3's hot linked to web pages for background music... I don't understand it at all. It will take a few days for me to figure out the procedures for saving an mp3 to the www were I can link it to the html code. Until then, the music is removed.




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    Jody,
    Here it is
    http://boldering.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3716&highlight=rockclimbing+com&sid=49e2d4c542eb5dfb4e0d06c194f460ae

    ~Geoff


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    rrradam
    You never learn huh?

    It was tacky IMO



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