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staredge
Apr 20, 2010, 2:56 PM
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bill413 wrote: Ooooo...are you going to offer a program in becoming a certified divider? How long will it take? Is there any risk involved?
That's my plan, although I'm only on page
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of my biography. As soon as I get that finished, I'll be posting the syllabus for my new course.
Thank you for your interest.
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TarHeelEMT
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This guy really does not like the AMGA.
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TarHeelEMT
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His other company:
http://www.alpenglowadventures.org/
Apparently he claims to be the first to take someone who can't walk to the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
Dude is a nut.
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TarHeelEMT
Apr 20, 2010, 6:52 PM
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http://twitter.com/summiter
Endless amusement
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trenchdigger
Apr 20, 2010, 7:51 PM
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Wow... just wow.
Word/phrase counts from the PDF:
"in the United States" - 10
"in America" - 17
"in the nation" - 54
"in the world" - 134
"first" - 644
Wait, 644 alleged "firsts" and none of us have heard of this guy?
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hafilax
Apr 20, 2010, 8:00 PM
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jt512 wrote: USnavy wrote: http://www.topropecertification.com/Course_Overview.html "It is designed to show each top rope instructor how to totally eliminate the numerous risks and errors that have already claimed the lives of top rope climbers in every top rope climbing area around the country."If I had to pick a single sentence to characterize that web site, I think it would be this one: Jim Ebert wrote: For over 43 years, I and my assistant climbing leaders, have been taking, what would eventually tally, more people than anyone else in the World, into more outdoor mountain regions in eleven mountain states and to seventeen Alpine countries throughout the world, involving 58,928 participants, averaging 10 days per each participant, and guiding over 68,192 people to 1,330 of the World’s most famous and most technical mountain summits, which is more people to more technical mountain summits (1,330 technical mountains) located in more Western Mountain States (11 Mountain States) and in more (17) Alpine countries than any other mountain guide, climbing school, guide service, mountaineering club in the world, combined, 1967-1996. Jay
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jt512
Apr 21, 2010, 4:40 AM
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hafilax wrote: jt512 wrote: USnavy wrote: http://www.topropecertification.com/Course_Overview.html "It is designed to show each top rope instructor how to totally eliminate the numerous risks and errors that have already claimed the lives of top rope climbers in every top rope climbing area around the country."If I had to pick a single sentence to characterize that web site, I think it would be this one: Jim Ebert wrote: For over 43 years, I and my assistant climbing leaders, have been taking, what would eventually tally, more people than anyone else in the World, into more outdoor mountain regions in eleven mountain states and to seventeen Alpine countries throughout the world, involving 58,928 participants, averaging 10 days per each participant, and guiding over 68,192 people to 1,330 of the World’s most famous and most technical mountain summits, which is more people to more technical mountain summits (1,330 technical mountains) located in more Western Mountain States (11 Mountain States) and in more (17) Alpine countries than any other mountain guide, climbing school, guide service, mountaineering club in the world, combined, 1967-1996. Jay He takes redundancy so seriously he uses it wherever possible.
You can say that again.
Jay
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areyoumydude
Apr 21, 2010, 4:55 AM
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hafilax wrote: jt512 wrote: USnavy wrote: http://www.topropecertification.com/Course_Overview.html "It is designed to show each top rope instructor how to totally eliminate the numerous risks and errors that have already claimed the lives of top rope climbers in every top rope climbing area around the country."If I had to pick a single sentence to characterize that web site, I think it would be this one: Jim Ebert wrote: For over 43 years, I and my assistant climbing leaders, have been taking, what would eventually tally, more people than anyone else in the World, into more outdoor mountain regions in eleven mountain states and to seventeen Alpine countries throughout the world, involving 58,928 participants, averaging 10 days per each participant, and guiding over 68,192 people to 1,330 of the World’s most famous and most technical mountain summits, which is more people to more technical mountain summits (1,330 technical mountains) located in more Western Mountain States (11 Mountain States) and in more (17) Alpine countries than any other mountain guide, climbing school, guide service, mountaineering club in the world, combined, 1967-1996. Jay He takes redundancy so seriously he uses it wherever possible. |
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kylekienitz
Apr 21, 2010, 5:09 AM
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hafilax wrote: He takes redundancy so seriously he uses it wherever possible.
Yeah, anyone skim the "Why take this course, instead of the very dangerous Single Pitch Instructor Course, that requires lead climbing" pdf? It's here: http://www.topropecertification.com/files/38546729.pdf and it's long.
I think he sat down for 15 minutes every day to write a little about why he doesn't like the AMGA's single pitch instructor course. Every day he would add a little bit more without remembering anything that he had just written down. It's pretty much the same three things just written in slightly different ways.
In reply to: Jim believes that "lead climbing" is not a necessary, or a needed top rope skill or proficiency, that it is a totally separate skill and proficiency, that is not, in any way, related to top rope climbing in America, and it has never been, since top rope climbing first began in the United States.
really?
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dugl33
Apr 21, 2010, 5:59 AM
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kylekienitz wrote: hafilax wrote: He takes redundancy so seriously he uses it wherever possible. Yeah, anyone skim the "Why take this course, instead of the very dangerous Single Pitch Instructor Course, that requires lead climbing" pdf? It's here: http://www.topropecertification.com/files/38546729.pdf and it's long. I think he sat down for 15 minutes every day to write a little about why he doesn't like the AMGA's single pitch instructor course. Every day he would add a little bit more without remembering anything that he had just written down. It's pretty much the same three things just written in slightly different ways. In reply to: Jim believes that "lead climbing" is not a necessary, or a needed top rope skill or proficiency, that it is a totally separate skill and proficiency, that is not, in any way, related to top rope climbing in America, and it has never been, since top rope climbing first began in the United States. really?
Isn't endless repetition a brainwashing technique? Say something enough times and it becomes true?
I'm going to wager a guess Jim's "Assistants" simply failed to escape the compound. I'm picturing attractive 20 something blond females renamed Aspen and Cedar, with braided hair, mountaineers knickers and hand-knitted wool socks with edelweiss flowers. Queue up the celestial music, and in they come, laying 45 meters of 1/2" static line and six locking steel biners at His feet.
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Cbyrne
Apr 21, 2010, 9:54 AM
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"Jim, and his team of four pushers and pullers, (including himself, his two sons, Justin and Jared, and his daughter, Jean."
wife, jillian, (commas added for redundancy) and child on the way Jules
edited to add this from the website:
The course fee is $595. There is a one hundred dollar discount that can be subtracted, discounted, from this $595 Course Fee, if the exact webpage location on this website, is specifically located where this discount is specifically mentioned. This webpage has to be specifically mentioned when registering in order to be given the discount.
holy shit redundancy
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edge
Apr 21, 2010, 11:33 AM
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curt wrote: USnavy wrote: http://www.topropecertification.com/Course_Overview.html "It is designed to show each top rope instructor how to totally eliminate the numerous risks and errors that have already claimed the lives of top rope climbers in every top rope climbing area around the country."Don't dismiss this so casually. Who among us has not witnessed top-ropers perishing all around us with alarming regularity? Curt
I blame the foot belays.
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bill413
Apr 21, 2010, 12:37 PM
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dugl33 wrote: Isn't endless repetition a brainwashing technique? Say something enough times and it becomes true? I'm going to wager a guess Jim's "Assistants" simply failed to escape the compound. I'm picturing attractive 20 something blond females renamed Aspen and Cedar, with braided hair, mountaineers knickers and hand-knitted wool socks with edelweiss flowers. Queue up the celestial music, and in they come, laying 45 meters of 1/2" static line and six locking steel biners at His feet.
Dang - I want to get into that business!
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blueeyedclimber
Apr 21, 2010, 1:51 PM
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Ok, so I just perused the pdf about his "what he teaches and why." Apparently, Jim Ebert was the first to do everything as it pertains toproping. This struck me as an odd claim, though....
28. Jim Ebert’s course was the first in the nation to tell a story about each and every point he wanted his course participants to remember.
What?! First to tell a story? Even if it was true, how could you even know that?
Anyways, learning about toproping for 14 hours a day for a week sounds like a blast. Sign me up! I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others...
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edge
Apr 21, 2010, 1:56 PM
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blueeyedclimber wrote: I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others...
You know that I am due a royalty every time you use my name, right?
10 cents a pop. I have a family to feed.
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johnwesely
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edge wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others... You know that I am due a royalty every time you use my name, right? 10 cents a pop. I have a family to feed.
You are really walking a razor's edge there.
Edit: for grammar.
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edge
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johnwesely wrote: edge wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others... You know that I am due a royalty every time you use my name, right? 10 cents a pop. I have a family to feed. You are really walking a razor's edge there. Edit: for grammar.
20 cents and it's only 10:30! w00t!
Keep it up boys, I can foresee an extra onion in the cabbage soup.
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johnwesely
Apr 21, 2010, 3:01 PM
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edge wrote: johnwesely wrote: edge wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others... You know that I am due a royalty every time you use my name, right? 10 cents a pop. I have a family to feed. You are really walking a razor's edge there. Edit: for grammar. 20 cents and it's only 10:30! w00t! Keep it up boys, I can foresee an extra onion in the cabbage soup.
Do I write a cheque or do you accept Pay Pal?
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blueeyedclimber
Apr 21, 2010, 3:43 PM
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edge wrote: johnwesely wrote: edge wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others... You know that I am due a royalty every time you use my name, right? 10 cents a pop. I have a family to feed. You are really walking a razor's edge there. Edit: for grammar. 20 cents and it's only 10:30! w00t! Keep it up boys, I can foresee an extra onion in the cabbage soup.
I was under the impression that it was 10 cents for use of your real name. real or another nickname, maybe?
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edge
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johnwesely wrote: edge wrote: johnwesely wrote: edge wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others... You know that I am due a royalty every time you use my name, right? 10 cents a pop. I have a family to feed. You are really walking a razor's edge there. Edit: for grammar. 20 cents and it's only 10:30! w00t! Keep it up boys, I can foresee an extra onion in the cabbage soup. Do I write a cheque or do you accept Pay Pal?
I'll put you on account and let me know when you can send a cam.
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edge
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blueeyedclimber wrote: edge wrote: johnwesely wrote: edge wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others... You know that I am due a royalty every time you use my name, right? 10 cents a pop. I have a family to feed. You are really walking a razor's edge there. Edit: for grammar. 20 cents and it's only 10:30! w00t! Keep it up boys, I can foresee an extra onion in the cabbage soup. I was under the impression that it was 10 cents for use of your real name. rea l or another nickname, maybe?
Heh.
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Its the Big Show, yo????
LAAAAADIES AND GENTLEMENNNNNNNN!!!!!11111
TONIGHT!
FOR ONE NIGHT ONLY!
THUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH
GGRRRRRRRRRREATEST GUIDE IN THE WORRRRLLLLLDDDDD!!!1111111111
DMT
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edge wrote: johnwesely wrote: edge wrote: johnwesely wrote: edge wrote: blueeyedclimber wrote: I don't want to fall off the edge like I am definitely destined to do, like countless others... You know that I am due a royalty every time you use my name, right? 10 cents a pop. I have a family to feed. You are really walking a razor's edge there. Edit: for grammar. 20 cents and it's only 10:30! w00t! Keep it up boys, I can foresee an extra onion in the cabbage soup. Do I write a cheque or do you accept Pay Pal? I'll put you on account and let me know when you can send a cam.
What kind do you prefer?
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