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waveknave
Jun 1, 2010, 8:09 PM
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Hello climbers,
Ever have endless restless nights dreaming about your nut tool borrowing a home in your leg or gut? I do too. Being new to trad, I was given the Wild Country Pro Key.
http://www.supertopo.com/...Wild-Country-Pro-Key
What is a safe way to carry these eight inch daggers while climbing? My tool has a mind of it's own and I think that one day I'll wake up wondering if I should just push it through or pull it out fast.
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acorneau
Jun 1, 2010, 8:13 PM
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waveknave wrote: Hello climbers, Ever have endless restless nights dreaming about your nut tool borrowing a home in your leg or gut? I do too. Being new to trad, I was given the Wild Country Pro Key. http://www.supertopo.com/...Wild-Country-Pro-Key What is a safe way to carry these eight inch daggers while climbing? My tool has a mind of it's own and I think that one day I'll wake up wondering if I should just push it through or pull it out fast.
Giggity.
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desertwanderer81
Jun 1, 2010, 8:21 PM
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No kidding! I'm ready to go now!
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petsfed
Jun 1, 2010, 8:47 PM
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A sling and a carabiner aren't enough now? Nut tools will always get in the way, no matter how they're attached. Get used to it.
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patmay81
Jun 1, 2010, 8:53 PM
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whats that coil attachment rated to? can I use my nut tool for pro with that thing, or should I stick to a hunk of 6mm chord?
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chadnsc
Jun 1, 2010, 8:58 PM
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The coil is body weight only. 
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waveknave
Jun 1, 2010, 8:58 PM
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Heh. Okay, I'll bite. 0.05kN or 5 kg.
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ptlong
Jun 1, 2010, 9:14 PM
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Carry it in the crack of your ass.
Seriously, if you're that worried about it either string it from a short tether so it can rotate or better yet leave it with your partner when you lead.
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clews
Jun 1, 2010, 9:59 PM
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just clip it to your harness gate out
that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you
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marc801
Jun 1, 2010, 10:04 PM
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patmay81 wrote: ...or should I stick to a hunk of 6mm chord?
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camhead
Jun 1, 2010, 10:18 PM
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clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you
Yeah, then the hook just catches on edges and throws you off balance in the middle of a crux.
I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it.
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clews
Jun 1, 2010, 10:31 PM
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camhead wrote: clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you Yeah, then the hook just catches on edges and throws you off balance in the middle of a crux. I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it.
How is that any different than the rest of your gear catching on edges and throwing you off ballance? I don't know about where you climb but in my area that happens more than my nut tool catching
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patmay81
Jun 1, 2010, 10:38 PM
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marc801 wrote: patmay81 wrote: ...or should I stick to a hunk of 6mm chord? Chord? How about Gm7?
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ptlong
Jun 1, 2010, 10:39 PM
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clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you
The OP wasn't worried about the tip. He was concerned about being impaled. A nut tool could in theory turn into a dull knife in a fall if things lined up just right.
camhead wrote: gumbies carry nut tools on lead
Sometimes they're quite useful on lead: cleaning dirt out of a crack; bootying a stuck piece before the second gets to it; or if I'm going to lead and then rap-clean I might need one. I often carry one just so that I don't have to remember to trade it back and forth.
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petsfed
Jun 1, 2010, 10:44 PM
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camhead wrote: I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it.
Only time I carry one on lead is if I expect to screw up a nut placement. So, aid climbing, which brings us right back to where we started from.
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desertwanderer81
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clews wrote: camhead wrote: clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you Yeah, then the hook just catches on edges and throws you off balance in the middle of a crux. I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it. How is that any different than the rest of your gear catching on edges and throwing you off ballance? I don't know about where you climb but in my area that happens more than my nut tool catching
There are few things more unnerving than being caught by a cam when you're going all out for a move ;)
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hafilax
Jun 2, 2010, 12:20 AM
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camhead wrote: clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you Yeah, then the hook just catches on edges and throws you off balance in the middle of a crux. I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it.
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milesenoell
Jun 2, 2010, 12:45 AM
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hafilax wrote: camhead wrote: clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you Yeah, then the hook just catches on edges and throws you off balance in the middle of a crux. I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it. I've hooked mine on one of the pull loops of my shoe. Took some real contortions to undo.
That sounds like it could have been entertaining.
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hafilax
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milesenoell wrote: hafilax wrote: camhead wrote: clews wrote: just clip it to your harness gate out that keeps the tip facing away from your leg and it won't jab you Yeah, then the hook just catches on edges and throws you off balance in the middle of a crux. I repeat: gumbies carry nut tools on lead. Have your second carry it. I've hooked mine on one of the pull loops of my shoe. Took some real contortions to undo. That sounds like it could have been entertaining.
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petsfed
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hafilax wrote: milesenoell wrote: That sounds like it could have been entertaining. Based on the giggles from my belayer, it was.
I had the same thing happen, except it was half-way through the exit mantel in ground-fall territory. Turned that elegant mantel into an awkward beaching procedure. Not really the best way to end 40 feet of runout granite slab.
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guangzhou
Jun 2, 2010, 5:22 AM
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I have my nut tool on lead with me, my partner carries one too. On more than one occasion, I've used it while leading. Cleaning cleaning dirt from cracks or removing a badly set nut.
I carry mine on the back of my rear gear loop and it stays out of the way there. I've clipped ti to my chalk bag binner before too, but it's not convenient if you want to use it.
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kobaz
Jun 2, 2010, 11:58 AM
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I use one of those. On an older wild country nut tool. They are like $1 at the dollar store. And I carry it on lead.. One less thing to worry about having to grab from your partner when following.
And I also use it from time to time to clean out cracks.
Edited for grammar... blarg..
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ken21il
Jun 2, 2010, 1:21 PM
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Go to an army supplus store and get a knife sleave. One the you can strap to your leg then load your nut tool. Sounds like the perfert way!!
(This post was edited by ken21il on Jun 2, 2010, 1:23 PM)
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Gmburns2000
Jun 2, 2010, 1:22 PM
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guangzhou wrote: I have my nut tool on lead with me, my partner carries one too. On more than one occasion, I've used it while leading. Cleaning cleaning dirt from cracks or removing a badly set nut. I carry mine on the back of my rear gear loop and it stays out of the way there. I've clipped ti to my chalk bag binner before too, but it's not convenient if you want to use it.
+1
It also has the added benefit of being there when you forget to exchange it when switching leads. 
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