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hipclimber
Oct 14, 2010, 4:34 PM
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Hey guys,
I am looking to do a year long climbing trip, but will inevitably run out of money after a few months. I would love to go to spain, italy, france, greece, but will need a job.
Can anyone give me any advice about working abroad while climbing. Is it easy to find jobs? are there agencies that can look for me? What are your experiences?
I have a degree in business and woring in marketing for a year if this helps give some direction. But I am willing to work as anything, if it means I can keep climbing.
Look forward to your replies and help,
Elan
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Kevthecoffeeguy
Oct 14, 2010, 5:39 PM
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good luck wit dat...
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Geeyome
Oct 14, 2010, 6:39 PM
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Just do whatever man.
It also depends if you have a house, car, family, etc. that you need to care for.
I would just work wherever I can, I wouldn't need much money for a climbing trip. Enough for food, travelling and sleeping.
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brownie710
Oct 14, 2010, 7:15 PM
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it is very common for you to need a working visa or the equivelant in many countries and without you may have to settle for under the table jobs leaving you open to getting stiffed by whoever has hired you since it is illegal for you to be employed without possession of the working visa. I'm not saying you couldn't pull it off but just some food for thought
edit after a re-read of your post. a background in marketing will probably not mean much as those positions will probably be run by folks who want to do things on the up and up
the under the table stuff might be barbacking or janitorial stuff
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lhwang
Oct 14, 2010, 7:30 PM
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Are you an EU national? If not you will need a work permit/visa. Unless you're going for a working holiday visa, you will likely need to prove that you have some essential skill that requires the company to hire you instead of a local. Also in some European countries the employer is required to apply on your behalf. It's fairly involved and most of the time they can't be bothered. You can work illegally but like brownie pointed out that can have its problems.
Do you speak Spanish/Italian/French/Greek fluently? If not, it will drastically limit your choices.
I worked in France on a working holiday visa (I'm Canadian). Most of the jobs I applied for were in hotel/restaurant work. I speak fluent French, English and Spanish, and basic German and Italian. I do not think I would have gotten any work at all if I could only speak English.
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hipclimber
Oct 15, 2010, 4:31 AM
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Well, I can only speak english, and I do not have a working visa.....
Which means I will need to get an under the table kind of job. Does anybody have any experiences with this?
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curt
Oct 15, 2010, 5:34 AM
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hipclimber wrote: Well, I can only speak english, and I do not have a working visa..... Which means I will need to get an under the table kind of job. Does anybody have any experiences with this?
No first hand experience, but Google "world's oldest profession." Have fun.
Curt
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Kartessa
Oct 15, 2010, 1:41 PM
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Why not wait til the spring, when the weather is less shitty in europe? That way you can saves lots o $$$!
If you fly out end of March, the weather is still shit, but you can get a flight on the cheap, learn to be a dirt bag and dont worry 'bout money out there.
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steinmethod
Oct 16, 2010, 3:48 PM
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hipclimber wrote: Which means I will need to get an under the table kind of job.
Elan, don't forget to bring your knee pads!!!
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viciado
Oct 16, 2010, 9:37 PM
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hipclimber wrote: I would love to go to spain, italy, france, greece, but will need a job.
Not to put a damper on your enthusiasm, but it is worth pointing outh that Spain and France are in the midst of serious austerity measures, Italy just went bankrupt and Greece fights hard just to stay in last place in the economic union. Unemployment is up to record highs and eastern europeans are flooding the blue collar and unskilled markets. Getting an illegal job is pretty hard right now just because there is so much competition. If you only speak English.... well good luck.
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hipclimber
Oct 20, 2010, 4:26 AM
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hahahaha. Stein, you should come on this trip of mine!!!! Grow some balls and do it.
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hipclimber
Oct 20, 2010, 4:27 AM
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My new plan is go to europe next august. I'll start my travelling with thailand in december...and see where it takes me. maybe korea to teach once i'm broke,...than europe to finish up.
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healyje
Oct 20, 2010, 9:13 AM
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It happens. I occasionally have to find a good stance to take a consulting call. I've hung out on pretty small stances on lead for as long as a half hour helping debug a problem over the phone. Another time I managed to drop a Palm Treo about 50' down a behind a column mid-call and had to listen to the damn thing ring for quite awhile in vain.
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rsmillbern
Oct 20, 2010, 9:46 AM
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You might look into working for a US company as a remote contractor. Find a job that is not too dependant on when you work, or where. You might have some trouble/expense with internet access in some areas, but if you can find the right consulting job that might not be an issue...
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sungam
Oct 20, 2010, 10:20 AM
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viciado wrote: hipclimber wrote: I would love to go to spain, italy, france, greece, but will need a job. Not to put a damper on your enthusiasm, but it is worth pointing outh that Spain and France are in the midst of serious austerity measures, Italy just went bankrupt and Greece fights hard just to stay in last place in the economic union. Unemployment is up to record highs and eastern europeans are flooding the blue collar and unskilled markets. Getting an illegal job is pretty hard right now just because there is so much competition. If you only speak English.... well good luck.
Save up for longer then go somewhere cheaper in the spring?
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sungam
Oct 20, 2010, 10:21 AM
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curt wrote: hipclimber wrote: Well, I can only speak english, and I do not have a working visa..... Which means I will need to get an under the table kind of job. Does anybody have any experiences with this? No first hand experience, but Google "world's oldest profession." Have fun. Curt
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