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marc801
Feb 28, 2013, 10:29 PM
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Kartessa wrote: bearbreeder wrote: Kartessa wrote: I just take whatever I can get for free and live with it... never had a problem beyond a numb ass when hanging for 2+ Hours. you lack squishy ballz  'Cuz I'm not constantly fellating myself in the corner.
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bearbreeder
Mar 1, 2013, 1:56 AM
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marc801 wrote: Kartessa wrote: bearbreeder wrote: Kartessa wrote: I just take whatever I can get for free and live with it... never had a problem beyond a numb ass when hanging for 2+ Hours. you lack squishy ballz 'Cuz I'm not constantly fellating myself in the corner. That has nothing to do with it - it's all from copulating with bears.
how RUDE !!!
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Kartessa
Mar 1, 2013, 7:08 AM
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bearbreeder wrote: marc801 wrote: Kartessa wrote: bearbreeder wrote: Kartessa wrote: I just take whatever I can get for free and live with it... never had a problem beyond a numb ass when hanging for 2+ Hours. you lack squishy ballz 'Cuz I'm not constantly fellating myself in the corner. That has nothing to do with it - it's all from copulating with bears. how RUDE !!!
How OLD.
How many more times are you going to make that comment?
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Kartessa
Mar 1, 2013, 1:54 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: Kartessa wrote: How OLD. How many more times are you going to make that comment? as long as yr RUDE  you can of course start an whole new thread about my RUDE to yr rude
Or I could just not give a shit
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Kartessa
Mar 1, 2013, 7:02 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: Kartessa wrote: Or I could just not give a shit you obviously give enough to moan about it ... hmmmmm
I'm groaning because you're a pain in the ass
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Kartessa
Mar 1, 2013, 7:25 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: Kartessa wrote: I'm groaning because you're a pain in the ass how RUDE !!! have a tough day telling customers not to try on as many harnesses or shoes as they can?
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rgbscan
Mar 1, 2013, 7:26 PM
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Misty Mountain harnesses are made in America by Americans if that sort of thing matters to you. Ever since Black Diamond got bought out most their stuff is made in China. Only BD biners, crampons, and ski skins are still made stateside.
I've got a Misty Mountain Cirque and Cadillac, a Petzl Corax, and a Black Diamond Momentum. The MM Cadillac is the best of the bunch. The corax is a close second.
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clc
Mar 2, 2013, 4:10 AM
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Trying on every harness seems excessive. I just buy the harness for its features, and I don't get my balls in a knot!
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Kartessa
Mar 3, 2013, 7:18 PM
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rgbscan wrote: Misty Mountain harnesses are made in America by Americans if that sort of thing matters to you. Ever since Black Diamond got bought out most their stuff is made in China. Only BD biners, crampons, and ski skins are still made stateside. I've got a Misty Mountain Cirque and Cadillac, a Petzl Corax, and a Black Diamond Momentum. The MM Cadillac is the best of the bunch. The corax is a close second.
I think a misty mountain cadillac is a little overkill for a gym/sport climber.
Read the OP before you comment
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rgbscan
Mar 3, 2013, 7:26 PM
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Wow, you're quite the prickly pear aren't you? But since you know best... I guess my opinion doesn't count. Sorry for giving options!! /rollseyes
I think a Cadillac is excellent for a noob. Big padding in both the waistband and legloops for all that hangdogging and redpoint attempts a noob will encounter. Durable construction that can take a beating a noob will dish out. Dual buckle system to center the belay loops - because as you get more fit and strong you'll lose some flab and being able to adjust the center is useful.
It's not MM's top of the line harness, but it is a very sold harness for the gumby and especially comfortable as you're getting the hang of things. THAT is why I recommended it. For an extra $20 or $30 they will have a much nicer harness that will grow with them and be more comfortable. To me, that's a great idea - and why the OP might be interested.
Now then, I'll guess we'll go back to letting Kartessa be the know it all of the interwebs.... Carry on...
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Kartessa
Mar 3, 2013, 8:41 PM
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My feelings are so hurt.
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cuchulainn1856
Apr 10, 2013, 2:59 AM
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If the rest of the children are done arguing, I'd like to put in my two cents. The Momentum SA is a great harness, affordable, don't have to worry about doubling back the buckles, nice wide hipbelt, plenty of racking options for the fledgling trad leader, and a nice tagline loop and chalkbag/shoes/belay jacket loop. I've had the Momentum AL for 7 years, just been in my closet the last two as I've been climbing in the Petzl Calidris for a couple seasons. Alas the Momentum is relegated to newbie climbing buddies for group crag days now. As another outdoor retail salesperson I understand it can be frustrating with someone "not in the know" to try on 12 different harnesses, but in my 6 years doing the job and hundreds of harnesses sold, I find that with your needs and not the price tag in the associate's mind, he/she can very quickly narrow down the selection to the one or two harnesses that will both be of excellent quality, reasonable price, and very durable. That said, I'll never go to a gear shop in Canada, I hope you're not doing your shopping there.
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Kartessa
Apr 10, 2013, 3:52 AM
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cuchulainn1856 wrote: That said, I'll never go to a gear shop in Canada, I hope you're not doing your shopping there.
Yeah, I hear they sell nothing but shit in Canada. Plus, the taxes are high and they go towards socialism. And while they'll let a dude marry another dude, they won't let you marry your cousin.
Fuck Canada
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bearbreeder
Apr 10, 2013, 4:33 PM
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Kartessa wrote: And while they'll let a dude marry another dude, they won't let you marry your cousin. Fuck Canada
guess you and your family member will need to elope some place where you can get married
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Kartessa
Apr 10, 2013, 5:19 PM
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bearbreeder wrote: Kartessa wrote: And while they'll let a dude marry another dude, they won't let you marry your cousin. Fuck Canada guess you and your family member will need to elope some place where you can get married
Its a shame we're not related, i almost found you cute.
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Kartessa
Apr 10, 2013, 5:23 PM
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Kartessa wrote: bearbreeder wrote: Kartessa wrote: And while they'll let a dude marry another dude, they won't let you marry your cousin. Fuck Canada guess you and your family member will need to elope some place where you can get married Its a shame we're not related, i almost found you cute.
We could have run away to California or Hawaii
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Ruff_Dog
Apr 10, 2013, 7:17 PM
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cuchulainn1856 wrote: If the rest of the children are done arguing, I'd like to put in my two cents. The Momentum SA is a great harness, affordable, don't have to worry about doubling back the buckles, nice wide hipbelt, plenty of racking options for the fledgling trad leader, and a nice tagline loop and chalkbag/shoes/belay jacket loop. I've had the Momentum AL for 7 years, just been in my closet the last two as I've been climbing in the Petzl Calidris for a couple seasons. Alas the Momentum is relegated to newbie climbing buddies for group crag days now. As another outdoor retail salesperson I understand it can be frustrating with someone "not in the know" to try on 12 different harnesses, but in my 6 years doing the job and hundreds of harnesses sold, I find that with your needs and not the price tag in the associate's mind, he/she can very quickly narrow down the selection to the one or two harnesses that will both be of excellent quality, reasonable price, and very durable. That said, I'll never go to a gear shop in Canada, I hope you're not doing your shopping there.
I'm not the OP, but I tried the AL on, it fit me, I liked it. I bought it. I wish I could've tried the SA on, too, because of not having to double back it.
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