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steelmonkey
Sep 29, 2003, 9:05 PM
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I'm curious what everyone thinks about the wealth of new climbing gyms soon to be open in the Phoenix area?
Solid Rock Gym up on the north side, I-17 & the 101 (off Pinnacle Peak)
http://www.solidrockgym.com
AZ On The Rocks - Scottsdale (101 off Princess Drive)
http://www.azontherocks.com
Surprised nobody said anything about this yet...seems a lotta people would be totally psyched to see lots of cool new indoor terrain as well as maybe cutting down on a lot of cross-city driving for the weekday workouts.
Comments?
G.
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me_lad
Sep 29, 2003, 9:16 PM
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I cant see there being a market for 2 new gyms. although they are quite far apart from eachother.
Im a PRG regular and am going to desert them as soon as az on the rocks opens. Im tired of sweating my ass off in 100 degrees in the summer when he's too cheap for AC.
the new gym looks excellent too, with the lead wall and a decent bouldering area big pluses. 40 minutes of extra drive time but i think it'll be worth it.
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crackaddict
Sep 29, 2003, 9:22 PM
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In reply to: 40 minutes of extra drive time but i think it'll be worth it.
40 minutes and I can be on real rock.
I don't really care since I don't gym climb much.
I am closer to the other two anyway. And if I had to drive that far north I would rather just go outside. Like Pinacle Peak or the Mcdowells. Use the money for gas and climb real rock. But if some one gives me a free pass I would check it out.
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me_lad
Sep 29, 2003, 9:30 PM
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you're going to go climb outdoors at pinacle peak after work at 7 o clock in the dark in the winter???
makes little sense. id rather climb outdoors too during the week but its a little hard with no lights..
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wpy71
Sep 29, 2003, 9:32 PM
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For those of us that work until 5 or six during the week, gyms are the only option monday through friday.
I am happy to see new gyms opening in Phoenix, I think PRG has been somewhat guilty of taking advantage of the fact they are the only gym in town. No air conditioning in one of the hottest cities in the country is pretty ridiculous. I'd be willing to bet PRG's lead wall gets finished a little faster now too.
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crackaddict
Sep 29, 2003, 9:45 PM
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In reply to: you're going to go climb outdoors at pinacle peak after work at 7 o clock in the dark in the winter??? makes little sense. id rather climb outdoors too during the week but its a little hard with no lights..
Sorry man, I did'nt explain that I work construction and get off work by 1 to 3 pm. I am able to get in some routes or bouldering in before dark.
7 pm? That sucks!
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epic_ed
Sep 29, 2003, 9:54 PM
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I was aware of AZontheRocks, but not solidrock. I, too, will be heading to one of those instead of the PRG. Dief is a ncie guy, but the conditions are unbearable and not necessary. I think a lot of climbers who train regularly at the PRG will hold this against him for enduring YEARS of swealtering temps in his gym and will bail for one of the new ones. It will be interesting to see the pricing at the new plastic palaces. If it's considerably more expensive, the interest may be fleeting and Dief may get most of the business back at the PRG. At least during the winter.
Any definitive opening date for either of the new gyms?
Ed
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me_lad
Sep 29, 2003, 10:09 PM
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azontherocks is supposed to be christmas,but they originally said fall, so it may be later again..
and its luck for some finishing at 3,the rest of us are confined to the gym.
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stick233
Sep 29, 2003, 10:12 PM
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one of you "rich climbers" out there put in a little effort and open one on the southeast side... ocotillo and alma school or so... it'd be a hot market i swear...
2 more does saturate the market, but at least while there are 4 open, it'll cut the crowds down a touch (until 1 or 2 fold) and maybe dief'll get some AC and finish the lead wall quick... well put bill.
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climberchic
Sep 29, 2003, 11:08 PM
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Maurice~ I was planning on heading to AZ on the Rocks too, before I saw the prices. They don't offer monthly and daily is a little out of my league. The yearly is more than I can handle at once, and would not be worth it considering the amount of breaks/injuries I take during the year. I would defintely head up there if it was cheaper, though.
i haven't heard of Solid Rock either, but it appears it will be opening in the first week of November. Might head up there instead as the prices at AZ on the Rocks are too steep for me.
Here's the breakdown:
Solid Rock
Opening: Aiming for 1st week in Nov. 2003
Where?: 101 and I-17
Hours:
M-F: 11am-11pm
Sat: 9am-9pm
Sun: 11am-7pm
Sq. ft. climbing area: 10,000
Sq. ft bouldering area: 1,700-1,900
# of Top Ropes: 43
Lead Area?: Yes, with cave
A/C: Yes. Will be installed in Spring
$$:
Day Use Pass
Adults:
(under 16) Monday - Friday (except holidays): $10
Weekends, Holidays: $13
Youth:
Monday - Friday (except holidays): $8
Weekends, Holidays: $10
Memberships:
Regular: $40 a month
Gov't/Student: $32 a month
Couple (non-relative, meaning you and a friend or spouse): ?? (Less than regular monthly)
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AZ on the Rocks
Opening: "Late" 2003
Where: 101 & Bell area
Hours:
M-W: 3pm-7pm w/members only hours from 7pm-10pm
T/TR: 6am-10pm
Fri: 3pm-11pm
Sat/Sun: 9am-7pm
*Portions of the gym may be open to members oly during certain normal business hours.
**Gym may be closed for special events, competitions, birthday parties, etc., so keep abreast of current calendar.
Sq. ft. climbing area: 14,000
Sq. ft bouldering area: 2,800+ (plus seperate upstairs bouldering area)
# of Top Ropes: 50
Lead Area?: Yes, with cave
A/C: Yes.
Other: Rappelling platform
$$:
Day Use Pass
Adults: $15
Youth/Gov't employee/Student: $90
10 Visit punch card:
Adults: $140
Youth/Gov't employee/Student: $90
Memberships:
Regular: $500 annually
Youth/Gov't employee/Student: $350 annually
Family: $1400
*Pre-opening special*:
Regular: $500 for 2 years or 2 people
Youth/Gov't employee/Student: $500 for 2 years or 2 people
Family: $1000
Couple (non-relative, meaning you and a friend or spouse): ?? (Less than regular monthly)
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wpy71
Sep 29, 2003, 11:18 PM
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Thanks for the breakdown Erica.
Azontherocks does sound a bit steep. Given where I live I wouldn't be all that enthusiastic about driving to N. Scottsdale or N. Phoenix. I just hope the other gyms opening motivates PRG to get some AC and upgrade the facilities a bit. (Lead Wall!)
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me_lad
Sep 29, 2003, 11:19 PM
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what a rip off. 140 dollars for a ten visit pass. i thought it was 90 for 10 visits, but thats the discount rate..
Hmmm, may be rethinking my rushing off to the new gym now. but i think i may suck it up. i only intend going once a week, so thats 140 for 2 1/2 months of climbing.
It is steep though.. i suspect it wont do too well at those prices, especially if PRG gets the lead wall open. hmmm..
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fyreflii
Sep 29, 2003, 11:20 PM
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Too bad I just moved from the area! It was a hefty drive from my house to PRG, and the new locations are much closer to my house.
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lilred
Sep 29, 2003, 11:26 PM
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WOO HOO!!!!
New gyms!!!!
I love Climbmax, but we DEFINATELY need a great ropes gym...with leading caves!
Has anyone heard about Climbmax 2? Mike's opening another gym up north too...Or is it one of the others mentioned above?
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me_lad
Sep 29, 2003, 11:31 PM
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i dunno what happened to climbmax 2 , i heard about it a while back then nothing..
Erica, you should check out their opening deals.
500 for a year for 2 people(half price). if you and ivan got one, it would be 5 dollars a week. thats pretty sweet.
I spend $480 a year in PRG...
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xcire
Sep 29, 2003, 11:39 PM
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Will PRG ever finish the leed room? Is there heat in the winter? I know we are in AZ but if i need a jacket im sure it will need heat
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lilred
Sep 29, 2003, 11:39 PM
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Its still a go, i just don't know all the details as of yet...
Oh, and by the way....
PRG SUCKS!!!!
/me braces for the worst
Hehehehe
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me_lad
Sep 29, 2003, 11:54 PM
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you dont need a jacket in the gym in winter, trust me :)
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fritzski
Sep 30, 2003, 1:08 AM
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I travel a lot, and try to get to the local gyms when I can.
Trust me when I say that PRG has great rates for what you get. $15 - $18 is not uncommon for a day pass.
Also the route setters at PRG do a great job compared to the whacky stuff you find at some places.
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steelmonkey
Sep 30, 2003, 3:05 AM
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me_lad wrote:
--Erica, you should check out their opening deals.
--500 for a year for 2 people(half price). if you and
--ivan got one, it would be 5 dollars a week. thats
--pretty sweet. I spend $480 a year in PRG...
I believe Solid Rock is about a hundred less for the same opening deal...call 'em. 623-587-7625
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climberchic
Sep 30, 2003, 4:47 PM
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I don't think there is a Climbmax 2.... From what I understand, Mike was helping out the AZ on the Rocks guys (or maybe Solid Rock??), but I don't think he was opening up his own gym.
Maurice~As far as the $$ for a year, that does sound like a good price for the both of us, but we can't afford to just pay that up front. And seeing as how I go to the gym about 8 times a month, that means $140 a month?? No, thanks. Plus, with those prices, what is the reality that we'll be climbing with/meeting real climbers in there? I can only see very affluent people affording memberships. Also, the hours kind of worry me.
I'd actually consider going to the Solid Rock one. I work downtown, so I may just bring my gear to work, and head up the I-17 from there. If PRG gets A/C and a lead wall, I'll head back down to Tempe. I'll miss 4 Peaks, anyway ;)
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elrojobdugs
Sep 30, 2003, 4:53 PM
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both places look pretty sick...
no AC wow that must blow... least the competition will force them to turn it on
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kam_ill_eon
Sep 30, 2003, 6:18 PM
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Consider it fixed Maurice.
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hendicrimpin
Sep 30, 2003, 6:25 PM
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hmmmm...i'm thinking about heading to the N scottsdale gym when it opens up. I mean, PRG is 32 hrs away, and the new gym is 32 & 1/2 hours away. I think its worth the extra drive time. :roll: hehehehe - seriously though, that new gym sent me the offer about the 2 for 1 membership deal....all the way to Atlanta. Now that's commitment to marketing.
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climberchic
Sep 30, 2003, 6:54 PM
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:lol: ...you goof.
Well, considering it'll take you 32 hours to get there, 32 hours home, then 32 hours back, we should try and go Mon. and Thurs. It might be too ambitious for you to do the normal Tues/Thurs routine.
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