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kimmyt
Oct 17, 2003, 3:42 PM
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I don't see how this picture being good precludes the original picture being good. I think that because the original photo was so solid, this photo is amazing. Placing Gollum's body on just any photo of someone climbing wouldn't have been nearly as interesting. So kudos to the original photographer, original climber, and photoshopper as well. There's room for lots of types of 'art' in the great big world.
Kim
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curt
Oct 17, 2003, 4:34 PM
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In reply to: :shock: wow... I think people are getting a little to worked up... time to go to bed kiddies. How many times do we see suggestions for color correction, focus adjustments and what not, in the comment section of photos. Personally, I'm getting a little tired of Jörg's sport climbing pics, yeah they are nice, composed well, and bla bla. I would like to see more creative pics and images. And the fact that the photo still has a rating of 9.7 shows that other people are feeling similarly. So get a grip curt
Thanks for the tip. In the future, if I ever need assholish advice again, I will be sure to ask you.
Curt
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sharpender
Oct 17, 2003, 5:17 PM
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karbala wrote:In reply to: We are living in the illusion that the testimony of our senses is accurate when an objective study would prove it severely limited. There is no way to be sure that red looks the same to me as it does to you.
As to the pic. I like it. I also love black and white photography. The Gollum pick is fantasy. It works well. I would guess that since Curt doesn't like this photo he would not and has not seen Star Wars/ Trek, et al.
Cryder, this being America, land of opportunity and all, perhaps you should contact the copyright holders and get permission to market the shot - Ya know, T shirts, chalk bags, coffee mugs, cards. Can't wait to see it at Nomad Ventures in J Tree. :wink: 8)
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curt
Oct 17, 2003, 5:28 PM
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In reply to: The Gollum pick is fantasy. It works well. I would guess that since Curt doesn't like this photo he would not and has not seen Star Wars/ Trek, et al.
1) I like the original unaltered photo better.
2) I don't like seeing the altered version on the RC.com front page.
That's about it.
Curt
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cryder
Oct 17, 2003, 5:35 PM
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I would market the Gollum image... but I think his commercial appeal would be short lived. The fact that they made the movies and secured the rights for those was a miracle. They had to wrangle over the issues of execution, and you guessed it, Gollum was the centerpiece.
This being america though, I would like to see some coasters. And cereal.... "Tasty trixy Gollum heads! Eat them up we do! Nice master loves us!!!!" Heh heh.
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hishopper
Oct 17, 2003, 5:50 PM
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I printed it as well, before some corporate scum threatens a copyright infringement suit. Printed it on photo paper no less, and will soon be attached to my '98 tacoma approach vehicle.
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nnichols
Oct 17, 2003, 6:26 PM
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fantastic picture !!!! Thanks!!! :D
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junnos
Oct 17, 2003, 6:53 PM
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How could people debate a cool pic like this? What, they have nothing better to do? Come on guys give me a break. Fact is, it's a cool pic.....cool as hell! 8) Does it bleong next to Jorg's stuff? Hell yeah. Hey, anyone can buy really good film, rap down over a sport route and take pics.........
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shnobe
Oct 17, 2003, 6:56 PM
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very funny stuff I laughed, I cried. not to mention very creative
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onelung
Oct 17, 2003, 7:24 PM
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Not a fan of the photo, but I am not very worked up about it.
I am even more bummed at the roatation that it is getting or any photo that gets stuck in my face every other time I return to the main page.
We have thousands of pics here, can we expand the rotation so as to get a bit more variety?
I do think that guy should stop by the spa for a shower, shave, and maybe something for the complexion.
that is my humble and not so worked up opinion,
bill
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climbsomething
Oct 17, 2003, 7:28 PM
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In reply to: Cryder, this being America, land of opportunity and all, perhaps you should contact the copyright holders and get permission to market the shot - Ya know, T shirts, chalk bags, coffee mugs, cards. Can't wait to see it at Nomad Ventures in J Tree. :wink: 8) |
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climbsomething
Oct 17, 2003, 7:41 PM
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In reply to: Hey, anyone can buy really good film, rap down over a sport route and take pics.........
Skilled photographers are about as rare as photoshop wizards. If ANYbody could take a good climbing action shot, we'd see those instead of the TR ass shots. Unless everybody's just holding out on us :shock:
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crag
Oct 17, 2003, 8:40 PM
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HEY! :shock:
You got something against asses?
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pico23
Oct 17, 2003, 8:56 PM
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In reply to: How could people debate a cool pic like this? What, they have nothing better to do? Come on guys give me a break. Fact is, it's a cool pic.....cool as hell! 8) Does it bleong next to Jorg's stuff? Hell yeah. Hey, anyone can buy really good film, rap down over a sport route and take pics.........
Thats the biggest troll statement I've ever heard on this board. I guess if that was true than all we'd have on the site was really good shots. I'd say even on the front page only 10% of the photos are exceptional. Whether or not photography is art is debatable but when you have questions about that take a look at Galen Rowells or Ansel Adams work and tell me it's not art.
Photography IMO is probably the hardest art to master and definitely the most under rated because everyone is an aspiring photographer. You have to work with an ever changing medium. Even with all the advanced gadgetry we have today most photos are at best poorly composed snapshots. Why is this? Because to be good you need to be an artist. If some of the photos people thought were good were paintings they'd probably be kindergarden finger paintings.
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anothertucsonclimber
Oct 17, 2003, 9:10 PM
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Scared the piss out of me at first - wasn' texpecting to see THAT over my morning coffee!!!!!
Nice job......from one artist to another!
Dale
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cryder
Oct 17, 2003, 9:58 PM
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Art is Man added to Nature.
- Francis Bacon
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climblarge
Oct 17, 2003, 10:05 PM
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Thats the best thing I've seen all day, besides my girlfirend sitting next to me!!!!
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karlbaba
Oct 18, 2003, 9:49 PM
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A philosopher named Krishnamurti said that Art is man's amplification of nature because we're too numb to appreciate reality as it is.
Everything is beautiful
Peace
karl
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galt
Oct 19, 2003, 12:01 AM
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People arguing over a well done piece of photoshop... this site has reached an all time low.
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junnos
Oct 23, 2003, 3:23 PM
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"If ANYbody could take a good climbing action shot, we'd see those instead of the TR ass shots. Unless everybody's just holding out on us :shock:
Like, DUH! That's why I mentioned raping down OVER the subject. If people would put a little EFFORT into things there WOULD be LESS ass shots.
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junnos
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dredsovrn
Oct 23, 2003, 3:32 PM
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I printed it and have it hanging above my computer at work. It makes me laugh everytime I look at it. Well done.
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trillium
Oct 23, 2003, 4:05 PM
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I'm using it as wallpaper in my computer!
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cryder
Oct 23, 2003, 4:12 PM
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Actually, this whole thing is a hoax. Gollum is my friend, we hang out a lot, so I just decided to take him "human climbing" for the day... he tended to eat my quick draws and slings, so I gave him cams to chew on as they last a little longer.
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mheyman
Oct 23, 2003, 4:37 PM
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In reply to: If I'm in the right location at the right time, it doesn't mean I'm a great photographer.
No Karl, but knowledgeable photographers (like G.R.) make sure that they are often at "in the right location at the right time".
Mark
Personally the original Kole is good. if I were a picture of me mine I'd frame a copy. But, I'm not going around showing the one of Kole to anybody. The picture of gollum is great because has mass appeal that I can even show non-climbers. Mass appeal is important to a picture in this category, cause without it no one will pay attention.
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