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I'm going to smith next week with a 50m rope, will it be long enough for the routes on morning glory wall or should I get a 60?
A 50m rope should be adequate for rapping/lowering/TRing almost every route on Morning Glory. Only one caveat comes to mind and that would be if you choose to climb "Nine Gallon Buckets" all the way to the 3rd set of anchors (which are about 95' off the ground)
AND then want to rap/lower/TR the route from those anchors. To rap/lower/TR from the 3rd anchor you WILL need a 60m rope.
However, with a little forethought and CARE the route can still be done with a 50m rope. TIE A KNOT IN THE END OF YOUR ROPE to avoid any accidents (this should be standard procedure anyway).
Now, if you climb to the 1st anchor (5.9) it's only about 35 feet. If you climb to the 2nd anchor (5.10c) it's about 75 feet up, so still no problem with a 50m. If you choose to climb to the 3rd anchor (still 10c, since the crux was above the 1st anchor) the route can still be
LEAD with the 50m rope
BUT not cleaned via toproping. The leader would have to rap/clean from the 3rd anchor to the 2nd anchor, then make a second rappel from the 2nd anchor to the ground. Then, of course, anyone could TR the route up to that 2nd anchor.
Incidentally, the climbing between the 2nd and 3rd anchor is FUN climbing on larger pockets and shouldn't be written off.
Of course, if you have another rope with you, a double rope rappel (and then a double rope TR, if necessary) can be done from the 3rd anchor.
Again, that 3rd anchor is just shy of 100 feet off the ground.
Pk, the majority of the routes on Morning Glory Wall are single pitch routes.
Of the few multipitch routes that are on Morning Glory, I can't think of a single one that has a pitch longer than 165' (and therefore mandating a 60m rope). Even Zebra-Zion, with it's 4 pitches, doesn't require a 60m rope. Do you know of ANY one pitch that is longer than 165 feet (50m) on Morning Glory? If so, post it here.
