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rockfax


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Over other types of climbing?

What is special about it?

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mick ... [i:5a271bbf09]you[/i:5a271bbf09] trolling? [i:5a271bbf09]really[/i:5a271bbf09], now; you can do better than [i:5a271bbf09]that[/i:5a271bbf09]! :lol:


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No one has yet posted and I can already see that I most likely would have liked the "Why would you rather have sex with sheep instead of goats" arguement/discussion much better than this one.

Must be a slow day Mick? :oops: :lol:

Bill


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i enjoy the concept of being personally responsable for protecting yourself on lead, the puzzle of figuring out the placements and the headgame of climbing above your placements. i find it to be more 'pure' and centrally believe that traditional types of climbing (trad, alpine, ice, aid) are the only true types of climbing. such things as gym climbing, bouldering and sport climbing serve only to physicly or mentally prepair myself for 'adventure' climbing.

for a climb to be truly satisfying i generally wish for my goal to be a summit which can only be achieved through technical means.

i also REALLY REALLY REALLY love having and playing with all the cool gear!! 8^)


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Mick's as bored as I am, it appears.

Trad's better. More adventure, more risk, more mental challenge. Blah blah blah.


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Trad takes me to prettier places.


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add mac's and bandycoot's responses to get mine. plus i get to own insane amounts of shiny stuff. that makes me happy too. :D


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[quote:1be9e12c88="billcoe_"]No one has yet posted and I can already see that I most likely would have liked the "Why would you rather have sex with sheep instead of goats" arguement/discussion much better than this one.
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[i:1be9e12c88]dammit[/i:1be9e12c88], bill ... why can't you keep a civil tone in this thread? once and for all, quit disparaging my beloved sheep. sheesh!

[img:1be9e12c88]http://www.geocities.com/tradkelly2/Scottish-Hooker.jpg[/img:1be9e12c88]


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Adventure is in the adrenal gland of the secreter. It's all subjective.


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Trad is great because it's a test of real courage. No matter how strong a poser might be, he will always be just that, a poser. I've watched guys with big mouths cry like babies when the opportunity of showing real courage presented itself in the mountains. What Kodak moments :roll:


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ROTFLMFAO! Geo, you just confirmed what I've suspected for some time now.


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Mick's as bored as I am, it appears.

Trad's better. More adventure, more risk, more mental challenge. Blah blah blah.

I no be bored Maculated.....at times I wish I had the time to be bored.

This is very serious research and I expect a better answer off you.

Mick


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http://www.geocities.com/.../Scottish-Hooker.jpg
Hot or what....reminds me of my days roaming the Scottish Highlands in my wellington boots ; o )

Mick

I'm a Suffolk man myself.....although when desperate I have been known to dalliance with a nice Masham half-breed.


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a suffolk man ... and you consort with our mutual mate, jerry handren. now it all becomes painfully evident!

hell, mick, we should party sometime: you bring the single malt, jerry brings the beer ... and i'll see the local herdsman about borrowing a threesome of scottish hookers. :lol:


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For me it's the idea that I'm the one responsible for what happens to me. I can't blame someone else sh*tty bolt job for my fall, or someone else's bad anchors, or whatever the case may be. I like that what happens is because of me, be it good or bad. I take responsibility for my action. I also like that trad is removable and not as damaging to the rock as let's say, um...bolts? Anyways, those are just my reasons.

As for sheep? I bet they wouldn't kick as hard as a goat, so I'll go with sheep.

Reminds me of City Slickers 2 when that dude is like

-"I milked your goat for you."

-"Thanks, but the goat's name is Norman."


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a suffolk man ... and you consort with our mutual mate, jerry handren. now it all becomes painfully evident!

hell, mick, we should party sometime: you bring the single malt, jerry brings the beer ... and i'll see the local herdsman about borrowing a threesome of scottish hookers. :lol:

Count me in!


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Trad is...well...more TRADitional :D :D


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WTF Maculated...you on some kind of power trip again.....bored?

This is a general topic and you know it.

Next time I hear you are coming to Bishop to try one of your bouldering projects I'm going to have that boulder shipped to France.

So there.

Mick


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WTF Maculated...you on some kind of power trip again.....bored?

This is a general topic and you know it.

Next time I hear you are coming to Bishop to try one of your bouldering projects I'm going to have that boulder shipped to France.

So there.

Mick

The admins are always on a power trip moving threads when they really don't need to. :wink:
I think I'll file a complaint. :P


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WTF Maculated...you on some kind of power trip again.....bored?

This is a general topic and you know it.

Next time I hear you are coming to Bishop to try one of your bouldering projects I'm going to have that boulder shipped to France.

So there.

Mick

Oh crap! Don't do that!! I mean . . . I love bouldering. And I would hate to have . . . the Ironman boulder . . . . be relocated!! No!!!! :)

Yeah, I'm bored. It didn't need to be moved, but here's the deal - we mods gotta read all the posts in our section (so make them good, hey?). And how do we deal with this? We divy them up by sticking them in appropriate sub-categories.

You're asking trad climbers why trad is good. General? Nahhhhhh. And besides, they both get reflected on the FP so it's all good.

Challenge me, I'll fight you. I can take you! :)


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Challenge me, I'll fight you. I can take you! :)

My Celtic blood runs thicker than yours "Evil Tease" you wouldn't last the first minute of the first round....unless you had help from the other genuine ET.

Mick Ryan (a Mcleod and a Culligan)


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I love these responses. Very very informative, full of good ole piss n
vinegar. But just so you guys don't think I'm a total armchair journo, doing
phoners and watching DVD's, I actually have climbed a bit in recent years largely in gyms, some minor bouldering (I know, now I'm really in for the
slammarama). But I haven't done anything that would warrant calling myself a climber. Not for 8-10 years.

Thus, I defer to the athletes who in truth are. Mind you, I have spent some time gawking, real time and live, at well-known boulderers in the Austin/Hueco Tanks areas, and I can't believe the stuff they're doing. Amazing. Ditto trad climbers and alpinists, whom I've tried to follow over the years since I bagged. Thanks all.

Oh, if I might ask Red Point Maniac and Resident Hardman for their names, at least their first name, and where they live.... That would be great.

Cheers,

Shermakaye for LA Times.


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Next time I hear you are coming to Bishop to try one of your bouldering projects I'm going to have that boulder shipped to France.

So there.

When this happens, let me know. I want to laugh for days.

coylec


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add mac's and bandycoot's responses to get mine. plus i get to own insane amounts of shiny stuff. that makes me happy too. :D

Stuff still shiny eh? :lol:

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