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pornstarr
May 11, 2004, 12:01 AM
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please post your supporting evidence here...
this could take awhile
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oldandintheway
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In reply to: please post your supporting evidence here...
I'll pass thank you. I'm just counting the seconds before the flaming starts...
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philbox
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May 11, 2004, 12:11 AM
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Well for starters you created this thread.
I rest my case.
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mike
May 11, 2004, 12:30 AM
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In reply to: please post your supporting evidence here... this could take awhile
Pinocchio.
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fullahsiffur
May 11, 2004, 12:44 AM
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No, that doesn't count, it's just a story. Now the bible, on the other hand....
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the_pirate
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I spilled pasta sauce down the front of my stove.
Created quite a mess.
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philbox
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A serious answer to your question though is this;
What we need to discuss is that creationism vs evolutionism is a clash of belief systems, nothing more and nothing less.
I reverse the challenge to you and ask that you post your supporting evidence first for evolutionism. The thing is that belief systems cannot be supported by evidence, there is as much weight for one as there is for the other, it is what you choose to believe in that counts in your mind as to whether you believe the evidence that may or may not support one belief system or the other.
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dynamic
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it is self-defeating to express the contention that the inexpressible cannot be expressed.
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rick_james
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In reply to: I reverse the challenge to you and ask that you post your supporting evidence first for evolutionism |
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fullahsiffur
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In reply to: A serious answer to your question though is this; What we need to discuss is that creationism vs evolutionism is a clash of belief systems, nothing more and nothing less. I reverse the challenge to you and ask that you post your supporting evidence first for evolutionism. The thing is that belief systems cannot be supported by evidence, there is as much weight for one as there is for the other, it is what you choose to believe in that counts in your mind as to whether you believe the evidence that may or may not support one belief system or the other.
Hmm... let's compare and contrast:
Evidence for Creationism: Not everything about evolution is understood yet by modern science and evolution is seen as an affront to some religous veiws.
Evidence for Evolution: Every living thing on earth and the findings of many thousands of scientists the world over.
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climbinganne
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i like spare ribs!!!
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nthusiastj
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Buddhism supports both science and religion. Therefore, supports both views. It's called the middle road.
Plus Buddhists rarely gave gay little boy sex.
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flying_dutchman
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uh, ur mistaking catholics and christians there...
Anyhow,
Creation says that God made everything in 6 days
Evolution says that a single cell spawned all life
Pick one and belive; i pick God.
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scubasnyder
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Creation is a word of your imagination.....
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rick_james
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In reply to: Anyhow, Creation says that God made everything in 6 days Evolution says that a single cell spawned all life Pick one and belive; i pick God.
i think ill pick knowledge and evidence. over blind faith. thanks.
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hugepedro
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In reply to: I reverse the challenge to you and ask that you post your supporting evidence first for evolutionism.
Texas longhorn cattle. Look it up.
The mechanisms of evolution are observable.
If there is a creator, I think it would be far more impressive if it created the laws of science that have led to what has evolved here. But that's just me. I don't feel any less "special" because I have evolved. I have no ego stake in a belief that something created me - it doesn't matter one way or the other.
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brundige
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In reply to: think ill pick knowledge and evidence. over blind faith. thanks.
i think you chose ignorance to
you realize that the 2 gases that supposedly came togather to spawn life on earth were noble gases wich means they each had enough electrons
and didnt need to combine to create something
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iltripp
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In reply to: In reply to: think ill pick knowledge and evidence. over blind faith. thanks. i think you chose ignorance to you realize that the 2 gases that supposedly came togather to spawn life on earth were noble gases wich means they each had enough electrons and didnt need to combine to create something
Come on!!! Did you read that sh!t in one of those retarted anti-evolution pamphlets they always leave in the men's room????
Learn a little more than high school chemistry before you start spouting bullsh!t like that...
Talk about ignorance
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fullahsiffur
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Noble gasses: Helium, Neon, Argon, Krypton, Xenon, Radon, Brundige's brain....
These are the gasses you are mistaking them for: Hydrogen, Methane, Nitrogen (all highly reactive)
And no one ever said '2 gasses came together to spawn life'. Observe:
http://www.astrobio.net/...ges/prim_setupsm.jpg
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capn_morgan
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Now I dont have any idea who is responsible for life on earth ...buts its becoming pretty clear as to who will be responsible for killing it off. Hint..it aint the f*cking turtles.
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fullahsiffur
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Great! :lol: :lol: :lol:
(:shock:)
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vulgarian
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I like to stay away from debates regarding organized superstitions.
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fullahsiffur
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Fortunately, it is easy to debate against organized superstitions like creationism.
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tomdarch
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the originator of this thread used the manipulative term "evolutionism" to get things rolling. To some degree, there is such a thing as 'evolutionism', which is to say that there are some people who accept the theory of evolution as a kind of 'dogma' without actually understanding it or questioning it. That isn't science, and that's what makes comparing creationism and the theory of evolution 'apples and oranges'. (This is the same problem with the asinine catchphrase "If Freud gets government funding, why shouldn't Jesus" in the discussion of the current move to divert tax dollars to prosteletizing with the "Faith Based Initiatives" scam.)
Science is fundamentally grounded in the observable world. Religion is rooted in faith, and fundamentally transcends mere reality. Attempts to compare creationism and the theory of evolution or religious conversion versus psychological treatment debases religion. It attempts to bring it down to the level of our dirty, everyday world.
(and just to throw in some flame bait, I can guarantee that the guys who beheaded the American in Iraq hate the idea of evolution. Mullah Omar of the Taliban? Big time evolution hater.)
(and while I'm at it, flame bait #2: can creationists simultaneously claim that evolution doesn't happen and complain about cloning? After all, if our traits don't come from variation based in the semi-random fusing of our parents' DNA and develop gradually over time, how could cloning even work? It seems like it's one or the other.)
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In reply to: and while I'm at it, flame bait #2: can creationists simultaneously claim that evolution doesn't happen and complain about cloning? After all, if our traits don't come from variation based in the semi-random fusing of our parents' DNA and develop gradually over time, how could cloning even work? It seems like it's one or the other.)
i believe in evolution the kind that a species changes gradually over time to adapt to its enviroment you see that all the time but there is no proof
that species can change species or spawn a new spices and if there is can you give me one example ..im willing to here your argument
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