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on_sight_man
Aug 25, 2004, 8:12 PM
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In reply to: the only thing that can make you a local is if another local refers to you as a local.
This is the closest to the truth. A local is defined by the other locals. If you are accepted and considered local by the others, then you are a local. It's like asking what makes you part of a gang? The other gang members of course. Some areas it's easy to become a local, others, impossible if you weren't born there. Still others, impossible if you ancestors were not born there.
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vivalargo
Aug 25, 2004, 8:45 PM
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[quote="on_sight_man"]In reply to: the only thing that can make you a local is if another local refers to you as a local.
There's some truth in this, if your criteria for being a "local" is the reactions and reception of the folks at a given area -- unquestionably a big factor. But to me an even bigger factor is how I feel in an area when I'm there alone, or when I'm driving into an area, or bivouacking there. Where does my mind go when I'm stressed? What's my comfort level at a given venue above and beyond the social climate? For instance, eveyone in the Valley could diss me at every corner but Yosemite would still feel like home.
JL
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asandh
Aug 25, 2004, 10:35 PM
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actionfigure
Aug 25, 2004, 11:26 PM
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asandh, you summed it up. that is the best reply of all and we should leave it at that. I'm pretty new to these forums, but I figured this would get people going. I love talkin' smack with you guys! You're all locals in my mind. AF
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haro
Aug 25, 2004, 11:36 PM
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What makes me a local!! I party all night long smoke the herbs and go climbin the next day lol :P :D
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on_sight_man
Aug 25, 2004, 11:40 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: the only thing that can make you a local is if another local refers to you as a local. There's some truth in this, if your criteria for being a "local" is the reactions and reception of the folks at a given area -- unquestionably a big factor. But to me an even bigger factor is how I feel in an area when I'm there alone, or when I'm driving into an area, or bivouacking there. Where does my mind go when I'm stressed? What's my comfort level at a given venue above and beyond the social climate? For instance, eveyone in the Valley could diss me at every corner but Yosemite would still feel like home. JL
hmm, when I go back to New York, I am "home" but I am definitely no-longer "a local". And there are places I have lived where I never was
"a local" but felt I felt at home as soon as I arrived.
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mungeclimber
Aug 26, 2004, 12:33 AM
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edited: out of context post to previous post. i hate long threads.
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mungeclimber
Aug 26, 2004, 12:37 AM
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[quote="vivalargo"]In reply to: In reply to: the only thing that can make you a local is if another local refers to you as a local. There's some truth in this, if your criteria for being a "local" is the reactions and reception of the folks at a given area -- unquestionably a big factor. But to me an even bigger factor is how I feel in an area when I'm there alone, or when I'm driving into an area, or bivouacking there. Where does my mind go when I'm stressed? What's my comfort level at a given venue above and beyond the social climate? For instance, eveyone in the Valley could diss me at every corner but Yosemite would still feel like home. JL
hmm, got a point there. viva la rubberdux!!
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locker
Sep 15, 2004, 1:30 AM
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Tucker Tech - around 4500
Al Bartlett - 4000
Todd Gordon - 3400
Todd Swain - 3000
Dave Haber - 3000
Chris Miller - 2500
Dave Evans - 2500
Don Reid - 2500
Michael Paul - 2200
Raleigh Collins - 2000
Sheryl Haber - 2000
Dave Mayville - 1800
Keith Bruckner - 1600
Cyndie Bransford - 1600
Brandt Allen - 1600
Randy Vogel - 1500
Bob Gaines - 1500
Roger Linfield - 1500
AJ Burch - 1200
Louie Anderson - 1100
Kastle Lund - 1100
Derrick Reinich - 1100
Al Perry - 1100
Pat Dennis - 1000+
Curt Shannon - 1000+
Margie Floyd - 1000+
Jake Collela - 1000+
Scott Cosgrove - 1000+
Tim Wagner - 1000+
Tom Michael - 1000
Tom Burke - 1000
To be a local, you need to have done 1000 different climbs in Joshua Tree. Period. It takes a while to do that many routes. We're talking 1000 different routes with NO repeats counted.
The current leader at the top of the heap is Tucker Tech with well over 4000 climbs. Al Bartlett comes in a lagging 2nd place with around 4000 and Todd Gordon (CEO joshuatreeclimb.com) is limping along at a distant third with around 3400 climbs. The women's leader is the amazing Sheryl Haber with over 2000 climbs.
This is quite a small, elite group of hard cores. To be a local is quite an honor, and a hard earned goal for many to strive for. Here is a list of known locals and their stats. Please help me keep this list current. If you have done over 1000 routes and are not on this list, please contact us at toddgordon@joshuatreeclimb.com.
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snowborder magazine suggests that if u lived in the place for at least 3 years, u can b considered a local.
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dangermonkey
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I agree. It is not like surfing. everyone is open to climb.
Late,
CF
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yanqui
Sep 17, 2004, 2:44 PM
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In reply to: What makes you a local?
You know you've reached local status when you can take other climbers, ones who climb much better than you, and show them around to a bunch of climbs, totally sandbagging them in the process.
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snowrocker
Sep 17, 2004, 7:54 PM
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You'll know when you are a local, basically for me, I drive up my local canyon and recognize cars of climbers I have met before, I don't know there names but I know that they are up there.
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