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michaelmay513
Dec 3, 2004, 4:15 PM
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Ok I know this is a silly topic but I don't care. When a certain type of person can't do a route or boulder problem they chip it to bring it down to their level. On plastic if you can't do a move and you change the hold couldn't that be considerd the same thing? I was working out on my home wall and tried setting a problem where I had to match on a BAD sloper, and I couldn't do it, so I put a crimp there and matched on it instead. This is why I posted this off the wall topic. What do you think? :lol:
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dontfall
Dec 3, 2004, 4:19 PM
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did you break or chip any holds? you "replaced" a plastic *gasp* hold so you could climb your route. I think this wouldn't necessarily be considered chipping, you simply changed a piece of plastic because it was too hard to hold.
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markc
Dec 3, 2004, 4:42 PM
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The comparison isn't very valid. The issue with chipping a natural hold is permanently altering something that was around long before you and that future climbers may have been able to climb in a better style. You modify something that isn't your property to begin with and deprive others of the opportunity to climb a route in its natural state.
Your issue has none of the permanence involved in real chipping. You swapped out holds when a problem was too difficult. You can easily swap back. The entire medium is designed for reorientation and change. It's like comparing altering someone else's original painting to playing with an etch-a-sketch.
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adamd
Dec 3, 2004, 4:59 PM
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T1
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keinangst
Dec 3, 2004, 5:01 PM
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When I'm at home lifting weights, if I can't hit my one-rep max the way I want, I just chisel some metal shavings off the plate and try again.
This is either the worst troll or dumbest question I have ever seen on RC.com, and that is saying a helluva lot.
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alderak
Dec 3, 2004, 5:17 PM
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its only cheating if you think it is... unless in a comp, nothing is cheating indoors if you don't think it is. (and everything can be if you want it to be)
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jdouble
Dec 3, 2004, 5:40 PM
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My friend at the gym recommends slicing bowling balls in half and glueing them to the wall.
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caughtinside
Dec 3, 2004, 5:48 PM
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YOU ARE A HEINOUS CHIPPER!! NEXT THING WE KNOW, YOU WILL BE GLUING SHIT TO YOUR WALL TO BRING IT DOWN TO YOUR LEVEL.
IF YOU CAN'T DO THE RED TAPE ROUTE, DON'T CHIP IT. WAIT FOR SOMEONE STRONGER TO DO IT. RESPECT THE ROUTE AS IT IS.
YOUR LACK OF ETHICS AND STYLE IS DISGUSTING. I PASS JUDGMENT ON YOU FROM AFAR.
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dynosore
Dec 3, 2004, 6:16 PM
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Did you make this route ground-up or were the holds bolted on rappel? If you're one of those plastic sporto's, it doesn't matter cuz you don't have any ethics anyways :D
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j_ung
Dec 3, 2004, 6:48 PM
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No way. T0... at most.
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cloudbreak
Dec 3, 2004, 7:38 PM
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You have way too much time on your hands.....
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angry
Dec 3, 2004, 8:24 PM
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It's a valid statement actually. When the plastic crew decides to go outside, they bring that mentality with them. "That route would be way sweeter if that hold wasn't so heinous, you know what I'm sayin' bra"
And soon we have chipped holds. As long as we realize that gyms are for training and are not the same as climbing, we'll be fine.
My trolls are way better, they usually get deleted or I'd show you.
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ron_burgandy
Dec 3, 2004, 8:58 PM
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When you are climbing plastic at you house, do what ever the f**k you want with you routes- they are there so you can train to get better at climbing so you don't have to chip holds when you get outside, you can do the route as is- au natural. Any ways chipping holds is really french... and you don't want to be that now do you?
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coldclimb
Dec 3, 2004, 10:07 PM
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NoNoNo people, you've got it all wrong. It's only gymchipping if the hold was natural rock, and you switched it out for a plastic one!
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ctardi
Dec 4, 2004, 5:02 PM
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at the gym, if i am having trouble on a boulder problem, i just tempararly put up a second hold by the one giving me trouble, just to help me for the first few times, then take it off and keep going at it...
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glyrocks
Dec 4, 2004, 6:36 PM
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In reply to: You have way too much time on your hands.....
...and so do we for reading stupid stuff like this
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Alright Cold Climb. But what if it was a natural rock hold and you replace it with a non-plastic synthetic rock hold? Is that just more like clearing debris away? :D
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tangboy
Dec 5, 2004, 8:21 PM
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good call ctardi! i like for sure!
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johnson6102002
Dec 5, 2004, 8:37 PM
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In reply to: NoNoNo people, you've got it all wrong. It's only gymchipping if the hold was natural rock, and you switched it out for a plastic one!
and this is why i say this thread is so out there its not even funny!
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robfromport
Dec 6, 2004, 3:05 AM
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If you're at the local gym and can't quite get a grip on a sloper, so you pull out your hammer and bash a nice ledge into the pastic-resin hold, than i think you could consider that cheating.
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