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Feb 1, 2007, 4:48 AM

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Re: [gunkiemike] Viper Picks?
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gunkiemike wrote:
kmc wrote:
Is there anyway to use a Charlet pick on the Vipers? I do like the swing of the Vipers better than the Quarks, so its not like I would want to replace the tool itself. Not that I could afford to do so anyway.

~Kevin

I'm holding the two picks in my hands. There is certainly enough metal in the Quark pick to match the Viper pick (you'd have to cut a lot away). But the problem is that the butt end of the BD pick is a lot thicker than the Charlet pick, like 4.6-4.7 mm vs 3.9-4.0 mm. So you'd need a shim in there. Then you'd want a very precise way to mill that triangular groove in there. Veeerrrry precise. Any slop in that groove and the pick wobbles (been there done that with my X-15's. A weak design IMO)

so that's why they are so tight!!!!

the calipers tell me that BD uses a 4.5mm piece of steel for their picks (doesn't matter what pick, the 4.5mm that goes into the head of the tool will be the same).

CM makes a pick that is 4.3mm. Pretty close. The groove would be hard to do without proper tools.

to the OP:
If you send me the picks I can give it a shot!

gunkiemike wrote:
Blush thanks, RP73, that was my analysis and post last year re. pick taper. As you can tell, this has been on my mind a while.


HAAHA nice!

I'll be the problem lays more with the way the teeth are then they taper of the pick. The trango picks i have are similar for tooth shape, and they stick now and then. I would think that having more taper would ram the teeth into the ice more as it penetrates, making it harder to remove.


(This post was edited by brent_e on Feb 1, 2007, 4:54 AM)



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