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caliclimbergrl
Mar 10, 2009, 10:10 PM
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Edited to try to keep things civil in The Ladies Room:
You unequivocally state that Einstein is wrong. Not that you disagree with him, but that he's wrong. Who the hell do you think you are?
I happen to believe very strongly in determinism. And I do realize that determinism cannot be proved scientifically -- because NOTHING can be proved scientifically. But you can find evidence for something. And, you can easily disprove something. It's very easy to find evidence for determinism and very easy to disprove the idea that everything is random. Any scientific experiment does that!! Manipulate an independent variable, take every precaution to make sure that independent variable is isolated as much as possible and then measure a dependent variable. If the dependent variable changes reliably when you do this, you have found evidence for determinism. If the chaos theory were correct, it is would be so unlikely that you would get these predictable reliable results, it might as well be impossible.
Determinism is an assumption that every scientific field makes. It is necessary for experiments to have any validity. If everything was random, scientific research would never find any meaningful results. And we've discovered all kinds of things using the scientific method. There is plenty of evidence for determinism. And relatively little for chaos theory. In fact, the more we learn about the universe, the less random it appears. It's true that there are usually many causes and they are difficult to isolate. But just because you can't figure something out doesn't mean it's all random and unknowable.
"When the number of factors coming into play in a phenomenological complex is too large scientific method in most cases fails. One need only think of the weather, in which case the prediction even for a few days ahead is impossible. Nevertheless, no one doubts that we are confronted with a causal connection whose causal components are in the main known to us. Occurrences in this domain are beyond the reach of exact prediction because of the variety of factors in operation, not because of any lack of order in nature.”
--Albert Einstein
(This post was edited by caliclimbergrl on Mar 10, 2009, 10:30 PM)
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