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pfwein


Jun 23, 2009, 12:45 AM

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Re: [dingus] Anything wrong with this newbs anchor?
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dingus wrote:
pfwein wrote:
dingus wrote:
Do let me know if you come up with one shred of PROOF that limiter knots provide benefit.

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DMT
Is a direct, on-point quite from a published book on climbing anchors PROOF, in your view? If so, I will get you said quote. If not, I won't waste my time.

No it is not, sorry. A direct quote from a published STUDY, THAT WOULD BE PROOF.

Do you know how the cordelette got it name and why it became so popular?

DMT
I don't know that--I'm assuming you do, and if you'd like to enlighten us, please do. I had thought the name was just French for little rope and it got popular with guides who wanted a power point for multiple clients, then got sort of popular in US for general use for whatever reason (maybe an old JL anchor book), and now it's out of favor.

But I'm sure you've got a better story!

Not that anyone should care very much, but my most common trad anchor is to equalize two pieces with a sliding-x on a shoulder length sling, (no limiter knots), attach to climbing rope with clove or figure-8, then attach rope to another piece with clove and get them somewhat statically equalized. Just pointing this out so any noobs who care understand this has all been a theoretical pissing match, which strangely seems to have really pissed some people off.

I've toyed with the idea of trying set up some "experiment" with weak accessory cord and body weight and a video camera, but I just don't have the skills/time to make it work, so we're all going to have to go with our intuition for the time being. I *think* I read some posts from rgold that questioned the "new school" assumption that extension is not that much of a problem, but I couldn't find that with a quick search, and I don't want to mischaracterize what he said.


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