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Re: [jape] Red River Gorge -- Motherlode Accident:
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j_ung
Apr 15, 2011, 3:25 PM
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jape wrote: healyje wrote: jape wrote: A shoddy belay on a gri-gri is damned safe(r) compared to any friction device.... I couldn't possibly disagree more - a shoddy belay with any device is a shoddy belay - if you could look at the number of people who are dropped annually by their belayer I would bet dollars to donuts in the vast majority of cases they were belaying with a grigri. And that could just have easily been the case here. Anyone who thinks a device can make up for shoddy belaying is seriously deluding themselves. Way to read out of context. hey, I'll take a no hands catch on my gg2 and you take one with a tube, I will even bet you $10000.00 that my fall is "safe"(R)..I'll even fly out to OR.... Yer math is poor as well... Takers? Any1?
Do you really not understand that Gri-gris also have failure modes, or are you being purposely obtuse?
healyje said it best. There's no substitute, including a Gri-gri2, for a competent belay. Incompetent belayers find a way to drop people every bit as often with Gri-gris as they do with ATCs and other tube-style devices. Competent belayers need nothing but a set of hips.
(This post was edited by j_ung on Apr 15, 2011, 3:27 PM)
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Post edited by j_ung
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