On a serious note though, I know people who have a checklist for their camping/cimbing trips, printed on a card and laminated. They check off things on it with a marker for each trip, and then wipe it off and start over for the next trip.

Good thread idea btw.

When we first started ice climbing we had a list if we were going away for a weekend. When something is that new it's easy to overlook something.

First Aid

Finger bandaids
athletic tape
neosporin
mole skin
duct tape
ibprophin
alcohol wipes
gauze
small knife with scissors

I am pretty sure a boulderer would want a crash pad on that list... considering the number of shoes, I'd say a least 3 crash pads, from different manufacturers, so you can have all the logos in the picture for sponsors.


On a serious note though, I know people who have a checklist for their camping/cimbing trips, printed on a card and laminated. They check off things on it with a marker for each trip, and then wipe it off and start over for the next trip.

It seems like a great idea. But a bit on the OCD side for my taste.

I like these. What's neosporin?
Also, do you prefer plasters over just gauze and tape?
Moleskins are the blister plasters, right?

Neosporin is a cream/gel to reduce chance of infection. I believe your people just use single malt.
Mole skin and blister plasters are basically the same thing

I like these. What's neosporin?
Also, do you prefer plasters over just gauze and tape?
Moleskins are the blister plasters, right?

What are the necessities?

Sport Climbing
-As above
-Stick clip
-List of excuses for having stick clip
-Draws
-Long draws
-Anchor draws (?)
-Projecting rope
-Sending rope
-Harness
-ATC
-Grigri
-Cinch
-Wind shirt/fleece
-Boom box

So I was sitting around in Geometry and Convergance as Leo rambled on about the finer implications (?) of the dot product, and thought "shit, we should make a f*cking huge gear list that has absolutely everything you could possibly need on a climbing trip".

Fixed that for you. (Note: Those who climb 5.hard may optionally unstrike the "sending rope")

Witch hazel? I'm assuming this is one of those bonnet/hood, boot/trunk, spanner/wrench translation things as I can't see any reason to pack a tree.

One all-purpose thing I don't see on the list- TP. Not only good as intended, also good for general cleanup, improvised bandages, kindling for the fire, etc.

Hmm. Thread idea...different 'packable' fire starter ideas.

Witch hazel? I'm assuming this is one of those bonnet/hood, boot/trunk, spanner/wrench translation things as I can't see any reason to pack a tree.

One all-purpose thing I don't see on the list- TP. Not only good as intended, also good for general cleanup, improvised bandages, kindling for the fire, etc.

First off, first aid - what are the necessities?
Sport Climbing
-As above
-Stick clip
-List of excuses for having stick clip
-Draws
-Long draws
-Anchor draws (?)
-Projecting rope
-Sending rope
-Harness
-ATC
-Grigri
-Cinch
-Wind shirt/fleece
-Boom box
-hammock for when your buddy takes an afternoon to send a .10a

Check the "super" glue, some are toxic. I use "skin glue" for minor cuts and scraps as it has a mild anesthetic (but stings like a b*tch when first applied).

Small pocket knife *without* scissors. That you carry on you. Large safety scissors in the pack, much more useful in case you need to cut through clothing to expose a wound.

CPR mask and gloves.

Maxi pad, sterile and cheap, for wound dressing.

Band-aids (if you have kids). The ol' duct tape and gauze is fine for adults, but kids need the re-assurance of a real band-aid.

Aspirin and Advil (ibuprofen), they have different uses.

Epipen

Pencil and notepad. Useful for leaving messages on your car for friends arriving late, taking notes of routes, etc.

Jetboil, for hot drinks when it gets a little chilly. Hot cocoa for the kids.y

Savlon is an antiseptic, whereas Neosporin is an antibiotic.

Okay, yours kind of turned into a family camping list rather then a climbing list, but whatever. re: CPR mask and gloves, big scissors, epipen (unless someone I'm climbing with needs them) and maxipads - nope. If I'm cutting the handle off my toothbrush I'm not going to carry those. I'll put the rubber gloves on but the others kinda have no place in the alpine.
Then again, the "overnight" list may be used for car campers, I guess.

That would explain why we can't get it over here. To reduce the mutations of resistant bacteria, antibiotics are available on prescription plans only.

re: SAM splint. Maybe it's just me but first aid has never really included splinting broken arms or anything.

Witch Hazel is an astringent from the witch hazel plant. If you pop a blisters then rub witch hazel in it hurts like a motherf*cker for 5-10 minutes but leathers up so you can hike on with some zinc oxide tape over it.

QTM:
Okay, yours kind of turned into a family camping list rather then a climbing list, but whatever. re: CPR mask and gloves, big scissors, epipen (unless someone I'm climbing with needs them) and maxipads - nope. If I'm cutting the handle off my toothbrush I'm not going to carry those. I'll put the rubber gloves on but the others kinda have no place in the alpine.
Then again, the "overnight" list may be used for car campers, I guess.

Let's move on - can someone critique my sport/bouldering lists? Did I forget anything other than the weed?

Hmm. Thread idea...different 'packable' fire starter ideas.

Okay, yours kind of turned into a family camping list rather then a climbing list, but whatever. re: CPR mask and gloves, big scissors, epipen (unless someone I'm climbing with needs them) and maxipads - nope. If I'm cutting the handle off my toothbrush I'm not going to carry those. I'll put the rubber gloves on but the others kinda have no place in the alpine.
Then again, the "overnight" list may be used for car campers, I guess.

a f*cking huge gear list that has absolutely everything you could possibly need on a climbing trip

Sorry, my mistake, I thought you said

Of course when I go ultralight, I don't bring a bunch of crap along. But everything is still on the list, so that I can cross it off the list rather than forget that it might be necessary.

Whatever. If you don't think you'll ever need them, fine, don't put them on *your* list.

Sorry, my mistake, I thought you said

Of course when I go ultralight, I don't bring a bunch of crap along. But everything is still on the list, so that I can cross it off the list rather than forget that it might be necessary.

Whatever. If you don't think you'll ever need them, fine, don't put them on *your* list.

Tee hee.

I think they're good items, but should probably go under something more like family camping or car camping

wtf is a "fire piston"? and do i want to look at that site while i'm at work?

It was the nicest picture of a fire piston I could find. I don't know anything about the rest of the site.

A fire piston basically uses rapidly compressed air to heat some tinder to an ember which can then be used to start a fire. I just think they're a neat old school fire starter.

It was the nicest picture of a fire piston I could find. I don't know anything about the rest of the site.

A fire piston basically uses rapidly compressed air to heat some tinder to an ember which can then be used to start a fire. I just think they're a neat old school fire starter.

So I was sitting around in Geometry and Convergance as Leo rambled on about the finer implications (?) of the dot product, and thought "shit, we should make a f*cking huge gear list that has absolutely everything you could possibly need on a climbing trip".
Obviously you won't need everything on the list, but it would be nice to have a full list of things to consider.
Hell you could print it off and just cross out the shit you won't need.

I dunno about other people, but I'm always forgetting something - spare batteries, a rag or piece of carpet when bouldering, (and on one embarrasing occasion - fuel for my stove ), this would be a fun tool to go through, I guess. I figured I'd break it down into sections - bouldering, sport, trad, alpine, day trip, camping, aid, ice, and misc (first aid, beer etc.)
Funny entries not only welcome but necessary.

There's a guy who makes them out of lexan, which is super neat since it allows you to actually see the action. Side note- diesel engines work the same way... reduce the volume of the gas until the temperature reaches flash point. Wicked cool stuff, and making one of these has been on my list a while.

There's a guy who makes them out of lexan, which is super neat since it allows you to actually see the action. Side note- diesel engines work the same way... reduce the volume of the gas until the temperature reaches flash point. Wicked cool stuff, and making one of these has been on my list a while.

What happened to 20K and done?
What about the cross product?
What on earth is a stick clip?

what is a ''22 thread for screws''?

22cm. A 22 inch screw would be impressive.

A stick Clip is an pole with a clip that allows you to attach and draw and rope to the first bolt.

Or in other words a tool used by people with out that balls to get off the ground with out a point of protection. ahhh boo woo!!

Why don't they just top rope then?

Because 8a.nu says that it still counts if you only pre clip the first two bolts!

There's a guy who makes them out of plexiglas, which is super neat since it allows you to actually see the action. Side note- diesel engines work the same way... reduce the volume of the gas until the temperature reaches flash point. Wicked cool stuff, and making one of these has been on my list a while.

Oh, and here is a page that explains how they work and their history.

And not surprisingly, you can get them from Firepiston.com. Here's their plexi one...

[image]http://www.firepiston.com/miniplexi.jpg[/image]

Why don't they just top rope then?

Being a dork, I already have a gear list, complete with boxes for me tick tick each item off as I pack.

My wife laughs at me a lot

But since I wrote this list I've never turned up without anything important!

Things to do:
□ Top up cell phone
□ Charge cell phone
□ Charge both sets of camera batteries
□ Charge iPod
□ Fill chalk bag
□ Check cooker gas level
□ Get cash
□ Cook some sausages

Climbing gear:
□ Rope(s), draws, and anchor
□ Rack
□ Harness, belay device, locking biner
□ Shoes
□ Chalkbag
□ Topo
□ Helmet
□ Any other gear off my other harness
□ Stick clip
□ Spanner
□ First aid kit
□ Bottles
□ Walky talkies and spare batteries
□ Sunscreen
□ Insect repellent
□ Summer hat / winter hat

Camping and clothes:
□ Tent
□ Sleeping mat
□ Sleeping bag
□ Cooker, pots, lighter, spork, cup
□ Heat pads
□ Head torch and spare batteries
□ Jacket / down jacket
□ Polyprops and gloves
□ Massage knob
□ Towel (and togs?)
□ Toiletries (tissues, anti-perspirant, Climb On, chapstick, ear plugs)
□ Contacts, glasses case, contact juice
□ Hipflask, beer?
□ Clothes
□ iPod
□ Book
□ Camera and spare batteries
□ Water?
□ Sandals

Last minute:
□ CDs in car
□ Drink and snacks in car
□ Cell phone in pocket
□ Take off watch and ring
□ Sunnies and hat
□ Toiletries


Hmmm, seems my handy tick boxes convert to "□". Sigh.

Steve

I may be the odd ball out on this one, but I think ascenders can be pretty handy for aid and big walls.

Overnight
-Spork