Never did understand the shouting about that whole bj business. Over here, our most boring leader of all time, John Major, announced a couple of months ago that while he was still in office he was jumping the Minister of Health, Edwina Currie.

The public reaction? Everyone sat up and said, "heeeeey, nice one John, and we all thought you were dull!". Suddenly he was human and likeable! I say, cool for Clinton. At least he proved he was a regular guy with the same concerns as the rest of us. A true man of the people.

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And what pray tell would you suggest for the millions of good teachers that would put out of work? Like my father? Sounds like a good Bush thing. Yeah! Let's put more Americans out of work!

Seriously, there is nothing wrong with Public schools. Many districts are run poorly at best, but there is nothing wrong with them and a necessity. Not every family can pay several thousand dollars a year to educate there children. Some of us are poor, you know.

I went to Public Schools because my parents couldn't afford any better. Nonetheless, I would say I received a good education (when I paid attention :D ).

Yeah, and the fact is Clinton's approval rating went up while extreme right conservative ranting followed. It kind of humanized the man. Brought him down to Earth and made people realize that he was, in fact, human like the rest of us and capable of making mistakes and having problems. I think a lot of Americans view politicians (any celeberties, really) in places that all that glitters is golden. That ain't true.

So what, Clinton "perjured" himself. Big f*ing deal. He lied about nothing important. It wasn't an Oliver North/Ronald Reagan scenario. It wasn't weapons, it was a BJ. Yet still, he ran the country pretty damn well and improved things for what was important; the people.

I hate to interrupt the "isn't adultery great" backslapping fest, but did you ever stop to consider the potential "opportunity cost" of Clintons BJ ?. Because of his stupidity and general lack of morality, his focus was undoubtedly taken off leading the country and consumed with self preservation. What did he miss, what was neglected during this time period, we'll never know.

I hate to interrupt the "isn't adultery great" backslapping fest, but did you ever stop to consider the potential "opportunity cost" of Clintons BJ ?. Because of his stupidity and general lack of morality, his focus was undoubtedly taken off leading the country and consumed with self preservation. What did he miss, what was neglected during this time period, we'll never know.

I hate to interrupt the "isn't adultery great" backslapping fest

I hate to interrupt the "isn't adultery great" backslapping fest, but did you ever stop to consider the potential "opportunity cost" of Clintons BJ ?. Because of his stupidity and general lack of morality, his focus was undoubtedly taken off leading the country and consumed with self preservation. What did he miss, what was neglected during this time period, we'll never know.

As far as your point about what we lost during the scandal, I understand. It is a good point, but I don't feel it holds much water based on the saying we've all heard, "no news is good news". Nothing happened during his scandal, no major world or American crises. Furthermore, he was still running the country during all of that. Not every moment of his day was taken away from the Office at hand. :wink:

Because of his stupidity and general lack of morality

Clinton is far being stupid. He made a mistake and has paid dearly for it. Bush make a mistake (the Iraq war) that has cost over a thousand US lives, 14,000 Iraq's lives and over 160 billion dollars and to this day said he would do the same thing. Now that's what you call stupid!

A self-confessed racist.... preaching about morality. That's precious!

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Seriously, there is nothing wrong with Public schools. Many districts are run poorly at best, but there is nothing wrong with them and a necessity.

A self-confessed racist who supports the worst president in history and his illegal war on Iraq preaching about morality. That's precious!

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Did you ever stop to consider the cost (65 million dollars) of the republican led Ken Starr witch hunt that lasted almost 6 years and what it cost Clinton and the American people?

Agreed Bob, it is a shame Bill Clinton put the country through all that. You are conveniently forgetting (again) that the BJ was not Clinton's biggest error in office. It was the cover-up and constant lying, some of it under oath, that was his real problem--something Clinton himself had complete control over.

Curt

It was the cover-up and constant lying, some of it under oath, that was his real problem--something Clinton himself had complete control over.

Clearly I rest my case! :roll:

Clinton lies about a BJ = bad

Bush lies about war = good

I think I'm starting to understand republicans.

Clinton deliberately lied, Bush acted on bad information. You call both things lies. I think I'm starting to understand democrats.

Curt

Bush knew that there were no WMD's in Iraq nor were they a threat to the US...

Clinton deliberately lied, Bush acted on bad information. You call both things lies. I think I'm starting to understand democrats.

Curt

Bush knew that there were no WMD's in Iraq