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areyoumydude


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rescueman wrote:

areyoumydude wrote:
I've read a couple of [Petit's] books, one of which is his account of the twin towers walk. It is way more in depth than the movie.
The amazing part of that story is the planning and execution not the walk itself.

In fact, Petit spent six years planning this event, including a lot of on-site investigation and analysis. That's why he didn't have to "move fast" when it came to the actual feat, and why he could carry it out to perfection.

If you read his book you would know that they pulled the whole thing off with a lot of luck and determination. It could have blown up in their faces at any moment. This was far from perfection. The night of the set up was frantic and they barely pulled it off.

Sometimes, if you want to achieve something, you have to say fuck it, stick your neck out and go for it. That is what Philippe Petit did and that's what anyone who achieves anything beyond mediocrity does.


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jt512


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rescueman wrote:
johnwesely wrote:
No one is going to argue with you that the goal of climbing is to fall. It would be great to never fall, but if you care about improving, which is fine if you do not, you will fall. Every traditional climber of note falls.

Watch the movie Man On Wire, about Philippe Petit, who walked a wire between the World Trade towers when they were under construction in 1974. In a recent interview, he said that "falling was not part of his reality". He also said that he knew he could complete the walk (in fact, did it eight times) - in other words, as a true master of the art, he operated perfectly within his limits. He says that he has never fallen during a performance (and fell only once during practice at Ringling Brothers Circus).

[image]http://jetcomx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/man-on-wire-21.jpg[/image]

Someday, grasshopper, you might live into the wisdom of a true Jedi Master. But not likely, if you're unable to listen to the wisdom of those who have completed that journey.

I hope you don't mean to imply that we should listen to you for that reason.

Edit: OMG, he actually does.


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rescueman wrote:
I never stated that I climb hard, nor did anything I said suggest or imply that. I climb perfectly.

"Hard" is for those with something to prove. Perfection is for true masters.

The degree to which your ego is bloated is astonishing. In fact, you have the most inflated self-image of anyone I have ever encountered in person or on line.

Jay


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rescueman wrote:
What people who climb merely to prove their physical abilities cannot possibly comprehend is that, when one is climbing to perfection, one is climbing at the pinnacle of performance - even if the grade is 5.4.

Quoted for priceless rationalization of lack of climbing ability.

Jay


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Can someone help me with setting up a kill file?


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Rocquestar wrote:
Can someone help me with setting up a kill file?

If you use Firefox, I can. First, install the Greasemonkey add-on, then install the rc.com killfile. You can then killfile a user from their user profile or from the link that will appear in any of their posts.

Jay


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Rocquestar wrote:
Can someone help me with setting up a kill file?

Kill file? This shit is Internet gold! How often do you get to observe bizarre delusion such as this?


hugepedro


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areyoumydude wrote:
Please tell me how you climb a 5.4 to perfection. Seriously.

That's easy.

1. Put on your flip flops.
2. Take off your shirt.
3. Eat some Cheetos.
4. Chat up a hottie.
5. Walk up the 5.4 no hands.
6. Hang the rope on your project.
7. Take the hottie home at the end of the day.

Duh


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rescueman wrote:
"Hard" is for those with something to prove. Perfection is for true masters.

A more succinct summary of the reason for your gaps in knowledge and experience could not be made.

Nor could there be a better example of the arrogance of ignorance.

Well done!


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jt512 wrote:
rescueman wrote:
I never stated that I climb hard, nor did anything I said suggest or imply that. I climb perfectly.

"Hard" is for those with something to prove. Perfection is for true masters.

The degree to which your ego is bloated is astonishing. In fact, you have the most inflated self-image of anyone I have ever encountered in person or on line.

Jay

Fingers crossed for a full-on implosion.


ceebo


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rescueman wrote:
qwert wrote:
your wording implies that you think you climb hard…

Don't blame me for your lack of comprehension.

I never stated that I climb hard, nor did anything I said suggest or imply that. I climb perfectly.

"Hard" is for those with something to prove. Perfection is for true masters.

And simple physical difficulty is the least important determinant of the quality of a climb (or of anything else in life). A monkey can do a difficult climb. A master turns a climb (or any other experience) into a metaphysical event.

I don't think you realise that hard climbing is a result of mastery ;p. Oh well, feel free to link me 100 you tube vids of these 5.8 masters.

Don't get me wrong, im sure you could find 100 vids.. after searching through thousands ;]. Better cut to the chase and just go look at 5.15 climbers.. where all are good no? Wink.


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jt512 wrote:
rescueman wrote:
I never stated that I climb hard, nor did anything I said suggest or imply that. I climb perfectly.

"Hard" is for those with something to prove. Perfection is for true masters.

The degree to which your ego is bloated is astonishing. In fact, you have the most inflated self-image of anyone I have ever encountered in person or on line.

Jay


And considering who this is coming from.... Tongue


johnwesely


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ceebo wrote:

I don't think you realise that hard climbing is a result of mastery ;p. Oh well, feel free to link me 100 you tube vids of these 5.8 masters.

I really wish the section of Master of Stone VI where Cedar Wright and his friend speed solo the Nutcracker was on Youtube. It really is an uncanny microcosm of all the topics discussed in this thread.


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In reply to:
maybe you DO have a dick. "Hard" is for those with something to prove. most "movin' fast" is a result of poor planning. Perfection is for true masters.

A master turns... any... experience into a metaphysical event.

It's not the grade that matters, but the mindset and the merging... into an indivisible entity and a seamless movement.

I am a professional educator. I'm here simply to share my knowledge with others who wish to learn.

So who's first in line?


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I hope you guys realize that rescueman has successfully trolled 5 pages of anger from a nonsensical beginner question thread. If you look at what he posts, all of it is clearly intended to be inflammatory.


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Rudmin wrote:
I hope you guys realize that rescueman has successfully trolled 5 pages of anger from a nonsensical beginner question thread. If you look at what he posts, all of it is clearly intended to be inflammatory.

Hey, no anger in my post!


TarHeelEMT


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He has attained the heretofore theoretical grade T6, although some Spaniard will soon be along to tell us they've trolled T6+.

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