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cmagee1
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Hey guys Im a college kid and am writing a paper on rock climbing for a comm class. Only problem is, I need to find some good academic sources to get info from. Any input? Thanks!
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jt512
Oct 18, 2011, 2:46 AM
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cmagee1 wrote: Hey guys Im a college kid and am writing a paper on rock climbing for a comm class. Only problem is, I need to find some good academic sources to get info from. Any input? Thanks! Academic sources on rock climbing? What the fuck does that even mean? Don't you think you should narrow that down a bit? Jay
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cmagee1
Oct 18, 2011, 3:16 AM
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A newspaper article, book, paper, etc. written by someone who is actually qualified to write it. e.g. something written by a professional.
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TarHeelEMT
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More politely, what's the question that you're trying to answer in your paper? Is it related to injuries, training, psychology... what? Nearly anything can be source material for an academic paper, depending on the topic.
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jt512
Oct 18, 2011, 4:05 AM
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cmagee1 wrote: A newspaper article, book, paper, etc. written by someone who is actually qualified to write it. e.g. something written by a professional. About what? What's your thesis?
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LostinMaine
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Sure. Here's one to tickle your fancy. Effects of climbing on plant communities. Peter Kelley and David Larson are most certainly qualified to write on the subject at hand. http://www.jstor.org/pss/2387394 If you want others on cliff ecology, I'll fill your entire reading library for the next 5 years. Now.. what are you really looking for? Edited to add... if you're really looking for "academic sources" try using google scholar as a search engine.
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jt512 wrote: cmagee1 wrote: A newspaper article, book, paper, etc. written by someone who is actually qualified to write it. e.g. something written by a professional. About what? What's your thesis? Get JT512 to write it ! I'm sure you can afford the price of an A on this so called paper!
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It really does depend on what you are writing about. Only advice I have is this: You can't use Wikipedia as a source.
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cmagee1 wrote: Hey guys Im a college kid and am writing a paper on rock climbing for a comm class. Only problem is, I need to find some good academic sources to get info from. Any input? Thanks! "Rock Climbing Subworlds: A Segmentation Study", which is some fellow's Master's thesis.http://repository.tamu.edu/...lje-2.pdf?sequence=1 You wanted 'academic'--its 101 pages of academic. But really, your question is way too general.
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cmagee1 wrote: Hey guys Im a college kid and am writing a paper on rock climbing for a comm class. Only problem is, I need to find some good academic sources to get info from. Any input? Thanks! Read your post. Note the incredible vagueness. (Re)read the other replies. Practice saying: "Would you like fries with that?" since your current course suggests a lack of focus and does not lead to the expectation of a full 4-year college career to the casual observer.
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porthillsclimber
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Google scholar gives 130,000 results for a search with the key words 'rock climbing'. I sure, through your college library, you will have access to journals and databases.
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jt512
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porthillsclimber wrote: Google scholar gives 130,000 results for a search with the key words 'rock climbing'. It does, indeed. Jay
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cmagee1
Oct 19, 2011, 3:25 AM
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Let me clarify. Im focusing on the "language" of rock cimbing. More specifically, the depth of climbing terminology and how it relates to the community. The reason I left it so open is that most climbing related writing can be used in reference to this topic. I dont have a thesis yet, its more of a research question at this point. Thank you guys for everything you've posted so far!
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TarHeelEMT
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Well, unless you can find something relevant on google scholar or jstor, it sounds like you'll be doing most of the primary source work yourself. That could be a big undertaking.
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TarHeelEMT wrote: Well, unless you can find something relevant on google scholar or jstor, it sounds like you'll be doing most of the primary source work yourself. That could be a big undertaking. Most texts are digitized these days. Universities have access to a lot of info. With a database of historical climbing accounts, maybe historical newspaper articles as well as modern sources one could build up the percentage of occurrences of certain phrases or words.
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jt512
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cmagee1 wrote: Im focusing on the "language" of rock cimbing. More specifically, the depth of climbing terminology and how it relates to the community. I have no fucking clue what in the hell that is supposed to mean, but maybe you're looking for bullshit like this. Chief among the findings of the research: climbers talk louder to their partners when they are further away (p. 92). I found this using Google Scholar. Guess what? You can use Google Scholar, too! Jay
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cmagee1 wrote: A newspaper article, book, paper, etc. written by someone who is actually qualified to write it. e.g. something written by a professional. Any time someone claims to be a 'professional' rock climber you should probably turn, run, and put a scholarly distance between you...
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rtwilli4 wrote: It really does depend on what you are writing about. Only advice I have is this: You can't use Wikipedia as a source. You can't use wiki as a source but wiki usually has references to the facts that they state so you can use those. Wiki is a good site to find fast sources.
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cmagee1
Oct 19, 2011, 6:48 AM
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jt512 wrote: cmagee1 wrote: Im focusing on the "language" of rock cimbing. More specifically, the depth of climbing terminology and how it relates to the community. I have no fucking clue what in the hell that is supposed to mean, but maybe you're looking for bullshit like this. Chief among the findings of the research: climbers talk louder to their partners when they are further away (p. 92). I found this using Google Scholar. Guess what? You can use Google Scholar, too! Jay Contrary to speculation Im actually familiar with basic search techniques. The purpose of this post was not to learn how to do research, it was just for collaboration. As someone much newer to the sport, I was purely asking those more experienced than myself for any possible sources they may have discovered over the years. Now, I understand that no one really goes around accumulating "sources" but Im sure that in the course of your climbing career you may have read something that could pertain to the topic I tried to explain. If you have not, then I appreciate you attempt to help. However, this was meant to be far less frustrating than it has apparently become to you. I apologize for the inconvenience.
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Oct 19, 2011, 7:24 AM
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cmagee1 wrote: Hey guys Im a college kid and am writing a paper on rock climbing for a comm class. Only problem is, I need to find some good academic sources to get info from. Any input? Thanks! Try Matt Samet's Climbing Dictionary: http://www.amazon.com/...319008229&sr=8-1 He's a computant climber and has background in Writing too. You could also check out the Climbing Section at About.com. Stewart Green has written a few books on climbing and other non climbing travel guides over the last couple decades. Pretty sure he is on contract with one of the big book publishers for travel guides too. http://climbing.about.com/ Hope that helps. If you want an interesting research topic related to communication and climbing, you should compare how climbers speak face to face versus how they communicate on RC.com. You could also compare how people interact on RC.com versus how they interact on other climbing specific forums.
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jt512
Oct 19, 2011, 7:45 AM
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cmagee1 wrote: jt512 wrote: cmagee1 wrote: Im focusing on the "language" of rock cimbing. More specifically, the depth of climbing terminology and how it relates to the community. I have no fucking clue what in the hell that is supposed to mean, but maybe you're looking for bullshit like this. Chief among the findings of the research: climbers talk louder to their partners when they are further away (p. 92). I found this using Google Scholar. Guess what? You can use Google Scholar, too! Jay Contrary to speculation Im actually familiar with basic search techniques. The purpose of this post was not to learn how to do research, it was just for collaboration. As someone much newer to the sport, I was purely asking those more experienced than myself for any possible sources they may have discovered over the years. Now, I understand that no one really goes around accumulating "sources" but Im sure that in the course of your climbing career you may have read something that could pertain to the topic I tried to explain. If you have not, then I appreciate you attempt to help. However, this was meant to be far less frustrating than it has apparently become to you. I apologize for the inconvenience. Just out of curiosity, what college are you attending and what's your major? Jay
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cmagee1
Oct 19, 2011, 8:09 AM
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guangzhou wrote: cmagee1 wrote: Hey guys Im a college kid and am writing a paper on rock climbing for a comm class. Only problem is, I need to find some good academic sources to get info from. Any input? Thanks! Try Matt Samet's Climbing Dictionary: http://www.amazon.com/...319008229&sr=8-1 He's a computant climber and has background in Writing too. You could also check out the Climbing Section at About.com. Stewart Green has written a few books on climbing and other non climbing travel guides over the last couple decades. Pretty sure he is on contract with one of the big book publishers for travel guides too. http://climbing.about.com/ Hope that helps. If you want an interesting research topic related to communication and climbing, you should compare how climbers speak face to face versus how they communicate on RC.com. You could also compare how people interact on RC.com versus how they interact on other climbing specific forums. Thank you!! Those are great sources and an excellent suggestion!
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jt512
Oct 19, 2011, 8:19 AM
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cmagee1 wrote: guangzhou wrote: cmagee1 wrote: Hey guys Im a college kid and am writing a paper on rock climbing for a comm class. Only problem is, I need to find some good academic sources to get info from. Any input? Thanks! Try Matt Samet's Climbing Dictionary: http://www.amazon.com/...319008229&sr=8-1 He's a computant climber and has background in Writing too. You could also check out the Climbing Section at About.com. Stewart Green has written a few books on climbing and other non climbing travel guides over the last couple decades. Pretty sure he is on contract with one of the big book publishers for travel guides too. http://climbing.about.com/ Hope that helps. If you want an interesting research topic related to communication and climbing, you should compare how climbers speak face to face versus how they communicate on RC.com. You could also compare how people interact on RC.com versus how they interact on other climbing specific forums. Thank you!! Those are great sources and an excellent suggestion! *facepalm* on so many levels.
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jt512 wrote: cmagee1 wrote: jt512 wrote: cmagee1 wrote: Im focusing on the "language" of rock cimbing. More specifically, the depth of climbing terminology and how it relates to the community. I have no fucking clue what in the hell that is supposed to mean, but maybe you're looking for bullshit like this. Chief among the findings of the research: climbers talk louder to their partners when they are further away (p. 92). I found this using Google Scholar. Guess what? You can use Google Scholar, too! Jay Contrary to speculation Im actually familiar with basic search techniques. The purpose of this post was not to learn how to do research, it was just for collaboration. As someone much newer to the sport, I was purely asking those more experienced than myself for any possible sources they may have discovered over the years. Now, I understand that no one really goes around accumulating "sources" but Im sure that in the course of your climbing career you may have read something that could pertain to the topic I tried to explain. If you have not, then I appreciate you attempt to help. However, this was meant to be far less frustrating than it has apparently become to you. I apologize for the inconvenience. Just out of curiosity, what college are you attending and what's your major? Jay George Fox university-Journalism. This assignment is for a GEED level writing class. Im just trying to choose a topic that won't be boring as shit.
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Oct 19, 2011, 8:28 AM
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cmagee1 wrote: jt512 wrote: cmagee1 wrote: jt512 wrote: cmagee1 wrote: Im focusing on the "language" of rock cimbing. More specifically, the depth of climbing terminology and how it relates to the community. I have no fucking clue what in the hell that is supposed to mean, but maybe you're looking for bullshit like this. Chief among the findings of the research: climbers talk louder to their partners when they are further away (p. 92). I found this using Google Scholar. Guess what? You can use Google Scholar, too! Jay Contrary to speculation Im actually familiar with basic search techniques. The purpose of this post was not to learn how to do research, it was just for collaboration. As someone much newer to the sport, I was purely asking those more experienced than myself for any possible sources they may have discovered over the years. Now, I understand that no one really goes around accumulating "sources" but Im sure that in the course of your climbing career you may have read something that could pertain to the topic I tried to explain. If you have not, then I appreciate you attempt to help. However, this was meant to be far less frustrating than it has apparently become to you. I apologize for the inconvenience. Just out of curiosity, what college are you attending and what's your major? Jay George Fox university-Journalism. This assignment is for a GEED level writing class. Im just trying to choose a topic that won't be boring as shit. "The University is consistently ranked as one of the top Christian universities on the West Coast." Got it. Jay
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