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pixelguru
Feb 10, 2005, 10:05 PM
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Whoa... cool echo.
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In reply to: and when your oxygen starved brain gets confused and tries to brew it like a tea bag, you're only out $100. Awesome, now I know why I've always lived close to the ocean :P
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tempestwind
Feb 11, 2005, 3:03 AM
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Flash memory eh? Very interesting..I see that some of the posts are against music I say Nay, Nothing like a little mozart to help you along that crux of your route :D
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foursquarewarmup
Feb 11, 2005, 4:04 AM
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I remember reading once that one of the Bengas brothers used a mp3 player on his way through the Khumbu Icefall and to Camp 1 on his way to doing the Crystal Snake on Nuptse. Thats around 19,900 feet.
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crag
Feb 12, 2005, 2:36 PM
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In reply to: What the hell happened to just taking a good book, a trip journal or a harmonica? ....or when your partner comes down with a bad case of HAFE. Certainly wouldn't want to isolate yourself away from that wonderful auditory experience.
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jeff788
Feb 27, 2005, 7:12 PM
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For what its worth I have an RCA flash-memory style that I took on Mt. Ranier and it worked great. I've left it in my car overnight here in Utah and found the LCD frozen in the morning. It wouldn't play music until it unthawed, but after that it worked great. I think MP3 players are great for some parts of mountaineering like long approach marches, sitting out a storm... I think the only problem comes when on technical ground and communication with your partners is essential and when there are objective hazards are a concern. Getting nailed by a rock fall that you could have heard comming would be a bummer for everyone.
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republiclimber
Feb 27, 2005, 8:09 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: What the hell happened to just taking a good book, a trip journal or a harmonica? ....or when your partner comes down with a bad case of HAFE. Certainly wouldn't want to isolate yourself away from that wonderful auditory experience. HAFE?
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lazyjammin
Feb 27, 2005, 8:31 PM
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I dont know too much about the MP3 players at altitude, but I have one very similar to an IPOd and it has a tendency when it gets cold to freeze, and then it takes about two-three days at room temp to thaw it out before it will play again.
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daisuke
Feb 27, 2005, 8:57 PM
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get the new ipod shuffle, put it in a bag and stick it under your armpit or somewhere warm, end of problem, the battery even lasts longer.
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arsenalcrater
Feb 27, 2005, 9:43 PM
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Flash memory eh? Very interesting..I see that some of the posts are against music I say Nay, Nothing like a little mozart to help you along that crux of your route Hmmmm....I was thinking of somthing more motivating.....Like SLAYER! How about Piece By Piece? "The only way to exit is going piece by piece." Now if that doesn't motivate you through the crux....
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crag
Feb 28, 2005, 12:44 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: What the hell happened to just taking a good book, a trip journal or a harmonica? ....or when your partner comes down with a bad case of HAFE. Certainly wouldn't want to isolate yourself away from that wonderful auditory experience. HAFE? High Alltitude Flatulant Expulsions (emission) FARTING
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kpj240789
Feb 28, 2005, 1:50 AM
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It works in planes at 35,000 ft. that is a pressurized cabin but I don't know why it wouldn't work.
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microbarn
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In reply to: Toasted_rancher is right. and so are you, but there is a change in recent hard drive design. In recent years the heads are not held away from the disks by air. They are pulled into the disk by a vacuum formed beneath the head. Mostly the same idea as you mentioned, but instead of pushing the heads away they are normally away and get pulled into the disk. THEREFORE, if you go up and you play a hard disk drive based MP3 player at high altitudes and it doesn't work then you are still not going to damage anything. It just won't be able to form enough vacuum to pull the heads into the disks, and you won't ever get it to play. However, it will be less robust to impacts. This isn't a big problem because with MP3 player usage, the hard drives can be parked in a safe position for a large majority of the time you are using them. They have sensors to tell them when they are being dropped. Additionally, the smaller drives are inherently more robust then a desktop drive. So, it would be a reasonably safe venture to take the player at high altitudes. I am researching hard drives for my PhD. I cannot say anything about the LCD screen.
In reply to: If you are going to need reliable memory (whether it is for music or pictures) above 10,000 feet, flash memory is the way to go. correct again. Others have said it too. Use flash to be sure. This thread seems to be drifting away from the technical stuff, so PM me if you want to know more. I am not watching this thread because I don't care if you put headphones on or not while outdoors.
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uzziah
Mar 14, 2005, 6:58 AM
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go for a flash player. they do not have moving parts. players such as ipod are hard drive players thus moving parts
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gineth
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My mp3, worked fine on my climb on Aconcagua. I listen to music all the time, just keep it warm. I was listening to music at camp 2 19300' and summit day I took it with me. So I don't think there is a problem for you to take it to Denali. And still works fine. So mine made it to 22841' and back, you'll be fine to 20320'. Good luck :wink:
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gineth
Mar 14, 2005, 2:24 PM
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My mp3, worked fine on my climb on Aconcagua. I listen to music all the time, just keep it warm. I was listening to music at camp 2 19300' and summit day I took it with me. So I don't think there is a problem for you to take it to Denali. And still works fine. So mine made it to 22841' and back, you'll be fine to 20320'. Good luck :wink:
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jude
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I just got a Lyra for Denali in May. It uses SD cards. Capacity is low, but it advertises 20 hours on AA. I know I wont get that, but it’s a lot better than my hard drive based MP3, and it’s field replaceable. Also much lighter than a hard drive or books, and includes FM. I digitize books on tape at 16 kbps. Not good enough for music, but fine for spoken voice. I wouldn’t listen to music to climb, but maybe this will keep me from killing and eating my tent mates on day four of the storm. The drawback is that it doesn’t double as white gold. I should be back in early June, so I’ll let you know.
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