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alpnclmbr1


Apr 1, 2005, 5:37 PM
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did you free the rainbow wall? if so, did you need a .4 friend on it?

Blew the 12c boulder problem, other then that I onsighted every pitch.
And no, I didn't really need a .4 friend.
(forgive the spray, it is probably the best route i ever did)

re: golsen's question
Stop encouraging people to post stupid crap on this site.


golsen


Apr 1, 2005, 8:35 PM
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alpnclmbr,
I am new to the internet climbing forums but been climbing since the 70's. Sure as hell, I am not going to rush out and try to free the RBW in the next couple weeks. Your posts here and in some other places led me to believe you were nothing abut an A##hole regardless of who the F you are or what you climb. Then your profile says you are a moderator which of course gives you some control over the threads. It is obvious that your self control of what you are posting these days aint happenin bro. However, to give you some benefit I read some of the other stuff you posted and surprisingly found that you were quite knowledgeable and had some informative stuff to say. Chill dude, you keep reacting like you did in this thread and it wont matter if you climb like god, nobody will be there to listen...If you delete all the choss on this site you will reduce the conversation to 10% of what it is...


alpnclmbr1


Apr 1, 2005, 10:16 PM
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Welcome to the site Golsen. We can always use more sensible people.

You seem to be under the impression that I hurt someone's feelings in this thread. As far as I am concerned, after looking into who the people I was responding to (in an admittedly disparging manner) were. My conscience is clear.

Basically, I called a bunch of people dumbasses. You may not be aware of it, but from my perspective, in the context of this site, this was a mild pissing match.

I have decided that if you post idiotic crap on this site, I am going to call you on it. I will make an effort to be as polite as possible when I am calling someone an idiot, but that can be difficult. The authority I am basing that on is a vested interest in a site that chooses to call itself rockclimbing.com Even if i do not have any legal rights in that regard, I still feel that i have somewhat of a moral obligation to do what i can.


Finally, much of the outrage that that I am showing in this thread is directed towards the admins of this site as much as anyone.


What does tenacity mean.


ps. I would be curious to hear if any of the mods feel that anything I have posted in this thread has violated the TOS and /or my obligations as a moderator.


caughtinside


Apr 1, 2005, 10:25 PM
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Great. Now we have an asshole to call out every piece of 'idiotic crap' on this board.

I'll expect to see you posting to every thread now, o wise one.


jcinco


Apr 1, 2005, 11:12 PM
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I have decided that if you post idiotic crap on this site, I am going to call you on it. I will make an effort to be as polite as possible when I am calling someone an idiot, but that can be difficult. The authority I am basing that on is a vested interest in a site that chooses to call itself rockclimbing.com Even if i do not have any legal rights in that regard, I still feel that i have somewhat of a moral obligation to do what i can.

Judging by this post of yours in this thread,

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Guess what, most people use aliens for the smaller sized cams and the beta reflects that. ,5 friend = yellow, .4 = green, .3 = blue.
Duh. It's not that complicated.

, you have little credibility to wax indignant about idiots on this site.


zozo


Apr 1, 2005, 11:14 PM
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I hope this thread never ends!!!


golsen


Apr 1, 2005, 11:20 PM
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alpnclmbr,
pissing match? lol. best way is to be on top of a big cliff and pee off at the same time. Have some hero worshippers (if you can find em) stand at the bottom and measure distance.
best wishes for a calm day....


dsafanda


Apr 1, 2005, 11:43 PM
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Interesting thread...Don’t they make prescription drugs for most of the psychological disorders on display?


Partner angry


Apr 2, 2005, 6:50 AM
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Alien has very specific names for their cams. We like to use colors, while working there we used the actual size.

Black was a .33
Blue a 3/8
Green a 1/2
Yellow a 3/4
Red is 1

Now I realize the sizes of what the manufacturers' employees referred to cams as isn't the same as a gear chart, but I've never been steered wrong in this aspect.
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alpnclmbr1 wrote:
Guess what, most people use aliens for the smaller sized cams and the beta reflects that. ,5 friend = yellow, .4 = green, .3 = blue.
Duh. It's not that complicated

Nope it isn't that complicated, but you are still wrong.


Disclaimer: I only worked at CCH long enough to buy some cams for cheap. I didn't set cams, I spent hours at the grinder de-burring everything. I really hated doing it and I hate the smell of a machine shop. I don't like Dave's dogs either. Dave is a great guy though.


watersprite


Oct 20, 2005, 5:58 PM
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ba da BUMP!


barc


Oct 20, 2005, 6:33 PM
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For the record. Here is the conversion: 0.4 friend is tips, I read it as smaller than 0.5 friend. Ie blue TCU or smaller. Same deal on 0.75 friend. 1.0 friend is a red alien. He says 0.75 when it seems like a yellow. Now you guys can stop bitching.

Elliott

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