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themullet
May 21, 2005, 1:02 AM
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not claiming to be anything beyond a concerned person.
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becalm
May 21, 2005, 2:13 AM
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three points:
"fieldmouse" is quoted above as having written something that "themullet" wrote. fieldmouse is, i beleive, somewhat embarassed and critical of the way many rc.com regulars have behaved -- in this thread, and in their personal lives regarding this family.
"themullet" is a regular at b.com, with all that this fact implies, and has suddenly decided to register and post here. draw your own conclusions on this.
although i've been lurking on this topic, it has become extraordinarily clear that this site is dominated by people who have no tolerence for cultural diversity. as someone posted earlier -- this really has been a "lord of the flies" environment. you do not understand their lifestyle, so you choose to attack it. please, just climb into your SUV's and head for the local mexican resturant, have a few margaritas, and calm down.
the attack on this family, their counter-culture values and lifestyle, and the silly little "solo" climb, is repugnant. i've been sickened by much of this. micahmaguire, "themullet" aka "plasticmullet", "jt512" (oo, you climb 5,12 and just HAVE to let us know) -- you should all be ashamed of yourselves. you must lead small and tiny lives, that you would choose to take the actions you have.
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dingus
May 21, 2005, 2:48 AM
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In reply to: -- this really has been a "lord of the flies" environment.
I have to jump in at this point as this is the 2nd reference... its 'Lord of Flies' not Lord of THE flies.
Other than that, rock and roll brother!
DMT
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erawtica
May 21, 2005, 3:00 AM
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Amazon is selling "Lord of THE Flies".
In reply to: In reply to: -- this really has been a "lord of the flies" environment. I have to jump in at this point as this is the 2nd reference... its 'Lord of Flies' not Lord of THE flies. Other than that, rock and roll brother! DMT |
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jt512
May 21, 2005, 3:55 AM
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In reply to: "jt512" (oo, you climb 5,12 and just HAVE to let us know)
*chuckle* Personally, I don't think my redpoint level is anything to brag about, but it's always interesting to see who is insecure enough about their own climbing level to suggest that my username is a form of bragging.
-Jay
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becalm
May 21, 2005, 4:08 AM
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nice try, jt5.12. but the old redirection ploy is quite transparent and passe.
how many of us do you think you are fooling?
if you think i'm insecure about my "redpoint level", you are a bit off base.
more to the point, i'm wondering where you come off harassing these people. i take it you are not a vegan.
and i certainly do wonder about your choice of username. perhaps i;ll follow your lead and rename myself "becalm5.11dnohangdogginggearprotectedtrad", or words to that effect.
so back to the issue at hand...exactly what was it that compelled you to harass these innocents?
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jt512
May 21, 2005, 4:12 AM
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In reply to: how many of us do you think you are fooling?
You, for one. You're an idiot.
In reply to: more to the point, i'm wondering where you come off harassing these people.
Please show us exactly where I have harrassed Storm et al.
In reply to: i take it you are not a vegan.
You're right, I'm not. Now, please explain what that has to do with anything.
In reply to: "becalm5.11dnohangdogginggearprotectedtrad", or words to that effect.
Like I said. Insecure.
In reply to: so back to the issue at hand...exactly what was it that compelled you to harass these innocents?
Again, where have I harrassed anyone?
-Jay
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becalm
May 21, 2005, 4:21 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: how many of us do you think you are fooling? You, for one. You're an idiot. In reply to: more to the point, i'm wondering where you come off harassing these people. Please show us exactly where I have harrassed Storm et al. In reply to: i take it you are not a vegan. You're right, I'm not. Now, please explain what that has to do with anything. In reply to: "becalm5.11dnohangdogginggearprotectedtrad", or words to that effect. Like I said. Insecure. In reply to: so back to the issue at hand...exactly what was it that compelled you to harass these innocents? Again, where have I harrassed anyone? -Jay (aka jt FIVE TWELVE) gee whiz!!
you have underscored all my points far better than i could have dreamed of doing.
resolved. you truly are as self-assured in your worldview, and as judgemental of other people, as your posts in this thread have indicated.
glass houses, mr. 5.12, glass houses.
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jt512
May 21, 2005, 4:37 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: how many of us do you think you are fooling? You, for one. You're an idiot. In reply to: more to the point, i'm wondering where you come off harassing these people. Please show us exactly where I have harrassed Storm et al. In reply to: i take it you are not a vegan. You're right, I'm not. Now, please explain what that has to do with anything. In reply to: "becalm5.11dnohangdogginggearprotectedtrad", or words to that effect. Like I said. Insecure. In reply to: so back to the issue at hand...exactly what was it that compelled you to harass these innocents? Again, where have I harrassed anyone? -Jay (aka jt FIVE TWELVE) gee whiz!! you have underscored all my points far better than i could have dreamed of doing. resolved. you truly are as self-assured in your worldview, and as judgemental of other people, as your posts in this thread have indicated. glass houses, mr. 5.12, glass houses.
Becalm, you have evaded every question I have posed to you. First, you accused me of harassing Storm et al, but when challenged to point out where I harassed them, you failed to respond. I ask you again to show us where I have done that. If you cannot do so, we must conclude that your accusation was baseless.
Secondly, I asked you what in the hell my personal diet style had to do with anything relevant to this thread. Specifically, what is the logic underlying this apparent nonsequitur: "i'm wondering where you come off harassing these people. i take it you are not a vegan." I now ask you for the second time to explain what your second sentence has to do with your first. If you cannot explain the connection, we will be forced to conclude that there is none, and that they are essentially random sentences posted by someone incapable of clear thinking; that is, an idiot.
-Jay
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curt
May 21, 2005, 5:14 AM
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1) What are all of you b.com scum sucking bottom-feeders doing over here? Is your site down?
2) To rockitjeff, BVB is the real deal.
3) If you have to complain about this retarded story to someone, forget about CPS. Call Rumsfeld, the CIA, FBI and Homeland Security--if you want to get any attention. Protecting children through social services is sooooo passe.
Curt
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pru
May 21, 2005, 2:25 PM
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In reply to: 1) What are all of you b.com scum sucking bottom-feeders doing over here? Is your site down? |
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themullet
May 21, 2005, 3:55 PM
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In reply to: three points: "themullet" is a regular at b.com, with all that this fact implies, and has suddenly decided to register and post here. So what, I reponded that his assertion was indeed valid. My on-line B.COM personality has no bearing either on this topic, how I will interact with the RC.COM community now that I have discovered this forum, or how I feel in real-life. I have a very long history at B.COM that eventually lead to the plasticmullet, you not being part of that history or not knowing the avenues the plasticmullet persona traverssed is obvious. But it has no bearing on anything. you do not understand their lifestyle, so you choose to attack it. please, just climb into your SUV's and head for the local mexican resturant, have a few margaritas, and calm down. Talk about passee. It is not about lifestyle, It's about recognizing a potentially dangerous situation involving kids and informing authorities who are specialists in ascertaining the threat, that's it. It is a responsibility as an adult to inform authroities when one encounters a situation which may be harmful to children. Sitting back and doing nothing is inexcusable and/or the decision of a immature dolt.
With respect to attacking lifestyle, it appears that you are the one doing so by suggesting us well-to-do boulders and climbers ought to opt for jumping into our comfortable lives and let things roll. That I am well-off and happy participating in the American lifestyle has zero bearing on this situation, nor does the fact that the family in question is Vegan. It is those who do not understand the situation here that are getting cuaght up in lifestyle. i've been sickened by much of this. micahmaguire, "themullet" aka "plasticmullet", "jt512" (oo, you climb 5,12 and just HAVE to let us know) -- you should all be ashamed of yourselves. you must lead small and tiny lives, that you would choose to take the actions you have. My actions were meant to protect innocent children. You are the one whi should be ashamed, by standing back and doing nothing but scolding those of us who care enough to at least get this situation looked into by proper authorities. We must have made some sense to Storm, he deleted the refernce to today being a good day to die; even he understands the scenario described by his wife was one of true dire and extreme danger to his kids. At a minimum, it deserves a look into. It appears I lead a life much fuller than your's in that I can extend my love for people beyond the realm of myslef, something you seem to be unable to accomplish. |
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dingus
May 21, 2005, 4:22 PM
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In reply to: My actions were meant to protect innocent children. You are the one whi should be ashamed, by standing back and doing nothing but scolding those of us who care enough to at least get this situation looked into by proper authorities.
Maybe so, maybe not. Perhaps your actions were meant to make you feel better, feel proactive, and had little or nothing to do with children you don't and never will know.
But then again, maybe your motives were pure (if misguided).
Maybe this Storm dude endangered his kids needlessly. Maybe he didn't.
The truth is not discernable over the internet, if it is discernable at all.
But assuming that CPS are the 'proper' authorities to remedy this situation is a stretch. You and others put faith in a system that is often undeserving of it.
Maybe a scolding was exactly the thing Storm needed to hear. He certainly got an ear full, and if reports such as yours are to be believed, they had an impact. Perhaps mission accomplished.
All over some doctored climbing pics and accompanying self-aggrandizing writing. Whatever.
DMT
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May 21, 2005, 4:32 PM
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"Come out and fight! It is a good day to die!... Thank you for making me a human being. Thank you for helping me to become a warrior. Thank you for my victories and for my defeats. Thank you for my vision and the blindness in which I saw further... You make all things and direct them in their ways, oh Grandfather, and now you have decided the human beings will soon walk a road... that leads nowhere."
- Little Big Man
So much for originality. Great movie, though.
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rockitjeff
May 21, 2005, 6:12 PM
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yea........ the "this is a good day to die" is the funniest part of the whole farce..... let's see-- how will i die scrambling up 3rd class dirt? maybe rattlesnake bite... .
and yea curt. i know bobby V B is 'da man. i am an ol timey so cal..
just could not resist the jibe..he DID leave that one wide open (i was waiting for Kalcario to chime in
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bvb
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yeah, rockitjeff. i been expecting kalcario to burst through the doors any second. where the fuck is that tool? i need some new bait to troll with, i guess.
i mean, fuck.
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micahmcguire
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The topic as it applies to the Talifero family has been beaten to death, and I won't waste any more of your or my time explaining why I disapprove of their actions. However, I would like to address the alarming disrespect that some individuals are displaying towards volunteer prehospital care professionals.
Chugiak Volunteer Fire Department, like so many similar organizations around the country, are not made up of Barney Fife wannabe's with no real professional experience (thanks Dingus-you asshole). We are all fully trained, fully licensed, city-funded, EMTs, paramedics, and even a couple of emergency physicians who volunteer to extend the city of Anchorage's fire and EMS coverage to a more remote suburb of the city. We do this out of the goodness of our hearts, concern for our own neighborhoods, or even because we love the work! We are not just a bunch of idiot hillbillies who think we know something about first aid.
So comments like this one:
pda2540 "Oh wait, thats right, YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE A JOB....
I think it was written for actual professionals doing their actual job."
are awfully short-sighted, and in fact quite rude. The only difference between the volunteers and the paid EMS workers is a pay check...and in some cases a whole hell of a lot of nobility. Remember that many of the EMS workers who service remote areas-including many climbing areas-are volunteers. Remember that a very large portion of the search and rescue organizations in this country, especially more remote places like Alaska for example, are comprised mostly if not solely by volunteers. So if you ever break your leg way out in the boonies, fall off a mountain, or need help or rescue by some other means, its likely you'll be thanking your lucky stars that there are people who are selfless and dedicated enough to volunteer large chunks of their time and effort to helping thankless assholes like yourselves.
Bashing someone for being a volunteer is really, really low.
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dingus
May 22, 2005, 9:30 PM
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In reply to: http://www.mayberry.com/interactive/floras/13a.jpgnip-it-in-the-bud-micahmcguire"]Chugiak Volunteer Fire Department, like so many similar organizations around the country, are not made up of Barney Fife wannabe's with no real professional experience (thanks Dingus-you asshole).
Actually I wasn't referring to your coworker volunteers, I'm sure they are stand up guys and gals. I was referring to Barney's propensity for sticking his bumbling nose in other people's business and then quoting volumes of regulations when challenged... in other words; you.
http://www.sitcomsonline.com/...arneyfife-bullet.jpg
But I hear you Barney, about those volunteer staffings. And quite clearly, sticking your nose in the business of a family 2000 miles away is your sworn duty.
http://www.mayberry.com/...ractive/floras/1.jpg
In reply to: Andy, I think he's one them thar Californicaters! It's our sworn duty, SWORN DUTY ANDY, to NIP-IT, IN-THE BUD!
Hahahahahahahahahahahhahaha!
DMT
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micahmcguire
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...a very mature response from a very mature individual no doubt.
thanks dingus, you really put me in my place. I'm glad you can make yourself feel superior by taking childish stabs at the efforts of others. Why don't you go read your post a few times and masturbate to your own sense of self-worth. Granted, you are labeling and criticizing me, a fellow 2000 miles away whom you know next to nothing about, for criticizing the well-revealed actions of other people 2000 miles away.
is the pot calling the kettle black? I think so.
Why is it, do you think, that you feel so compelled to insult? Does belittling people fullfill some deep-seated need to feed a sense self-idolization? I never spoke ill of your professional life, and I would ask that you grant me the same courtesy. Given that you have no idea how good or bad an EMS worker I am, and have never even met me, I feel your comments are absolutely baseless and really only serve to make you and your opinion all the more childish in my eyes.
All in all, you have no clue what kind of person I am, nor what level of dedication and professionalism I maintain in my work. This discussion has transcended way beyond the original issue of whether the Talifero family is being reckless or not. This has now become a (very) personal attack from one individual against another for reasons that have very little to do with the wellbeing of the said family. Why not just be civil and let the matter rest?
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rgold
May 22, 2005, 10:38 PM
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When the OP said a scolding was needed, he probably didn't anticipate that the result would be everyone scolding everyone about everything.
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bvb
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In reply to: When the OP said a scolding was needed, he probably didn't anticipate that the result would be everyone scolding everyone about everything.
werd, rg. good times.
i'd especially like to thank this barney for for some of the best toolery i've seen on the net in quite some time:
http://chugachpics.tripod.com/family/wed71.JPG
but, where's opie??
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micahmcguire
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yaaaawn. Is that the best you guys have got?
:roll:
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bvb
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In reply to: yaaaawn. Is that the best you guys have got? :roll:
well, yeah, it is. wildly creative humor and clever repartee and snappy retorts are pretty tough sledding when you're a burnt-out old alki living out of a bottle.
macallan 18 at the moment, btw. if you're going to swim in demon liquor, might as well make it the good stuff.
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