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allterrain360
Dec 26, 2005, 7:12 PM
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I heard from a friend that works for LNT that LCC has been sold off and turned into a rock quarry, and that many routes have already been destroyed... heart wrenching. Anyone have any veritable info on this?
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gullwing19
Dec 26, 2005, 8:46 PM
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I think you're refering to the temple and conference center quarry in LCC. Yes it's amid some of the worlds best climbing but it has ALWAYS been privately owned by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints....or the Mormons...never to be sold. It's by their grace that we're allowed to climb there in the first place.
And no, the only climbing that was destroyed there when they quarried for the conference center a few years back was some bouldering....and we all know that's not real climbing anyway.
No need to worry.
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thetroutscout
Dec 27, 2005, 12:33 PM
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Yeah, the whole canyon has been stripped of rock and soon it will be completely filled in with dirt...
There are so many good places up there and no routes are in jeopardy. Even if you boulder there is so much stuff that won't ever get touched, even if another 10 conference centers are built. All is well. At the moment there is a good relationship between climbers and the LDS church. This is due largely to the respect the climbers have had while climbing on private property and the way they negotiated the permission.
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tonerem
Dec 27, 2005, 3:20 PM
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In reply to: gullwing19 It's by their grace that we're allowed to climb there in the first place.
Uhh...ya, by their grace. Gotta love Utah.
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screamer
Dec 27, 2005, 4:24 PM
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I'm guessing he is mormon
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weschrist
Dec 27, 2005, 4:55 PM
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In reply to: Yes it's amid some of the worlds best climbing
I'm guessing he has never been out of Utah.
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thetroutscout
Dec 28, 2005, 6:27 AM
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Leave the poor guy alone and go climb on Sunday. LCC is just another great place that we're so lucky to have so close.
^^ike
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grk10vq
Dec 28, 2005, 6:34 AM
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where are my terds when i need them.
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jasonslc
Jan 10, 2006, 3:44 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: gullwing19 It's by their grace that we're allowed to climb there in the first place. Uhh...ya, by their grace. Gotta love Utah. In reply to: I'm guessing he is mormon In reply to: In reply to: Yes it's amid some of the worlds best climbing I'm guessing he has never been out of Utah. In reply to: where are my terds when i need them.
No need to ease off on this turd. He's a live one. A loud mouth prick and a bigot to boot. Have a look:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/...to_show.php?id=66788
Embarassment to SLC. Embarassment to climbing.
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On Feb 15, 2006, gullturd banned for a week for childlike behavior:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1313586#1313586
HAHAHA!
HAHAHAHAHA!
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gullwing19
Jan 17, 2006, 6:07 PM
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Yes..I am all of those things Jason. You are right. At least I showed up to hear you say them to me in person. My theory is right. Spray is spray, talk is cheap, and you chickened out. That's why these little internet disputes we are having mean nothing. It's all talk. Blah Blah Blah. Think of me what you will but climbing 5.12 "on good days" doesn't mean that you're still not a pu$$y...cause you kinda are...and I only climb 5.9.
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krusher4
Jan 17, 2006, 6:29 PM
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LCC is all gone...oh my! Well I am just happy that the Morman Church let us all climb there for so many years. LOL
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krusher4
Jan 17, 2006, 6:30 PM
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now there will be 8 posts commenting on the spelling of Mormon...ready...go!
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krusher4
Jan 17, 2006, 9:31 PM
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OHHHH.....I am a fool......and I do....I totally sent a 10a on top rope?? WTF
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sircamalot
Jan 17, 2006, 10:08 PM
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JasonSLC,
It sounds like you had just as much to do with all that BS non-sense as gullwing19. Why don't you both just simmer down and play nice?
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sircamalot
Jan 17, 2006, 10:11 PM
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JasonSLC,
It sounds like YOU had just as much to do with all that internet BS as the gullwing19 character did. Calling him an embarassment sort of reflects the same on you dont' you think? Why don't you both just simmer down and play nice?
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builttospill
Jan 18, 2006, 2:22 AM
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In reply to: In reply to: gullwing19 It's by their grace that we're allowed to climb there in the first place. Uhh...ya, by their grace. Gotta love Utah.
I don't climb in LCC, but I don't see why this is any different from any other place that is privately owned that allows you to climb. Anyone ever been to a place on private property where the landowner lets you climb? It's by their "grace" (although I might have chosen a different word).
I don't know anything about the situation in LCC, but don't bash the mormon church for letting climbers climb on their land. They own it, as much as I hate to admit it.
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asendr
Jan 18, 2006, 2:45 PM
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wonder how the mor(m)ons got the land in the first place. I'm sure they must have compensated the native utes in some fashion(massacre, disease, humiliation) for the land. It appears to me that this brand of gods representatives destroyed a true temple of god to create one that would suit the needs of those who are whipped by idolatry. WARNING! My opinion may be influenced by historical perspective.
I love ringlocks.
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rufusandcompany
Jan 18, 2006, 2:59 PM
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Even without the rock, owned by the church, there is so much climbing in LCC and the other Wasatch canyons that it doesn't matter.
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sidepull
Jan 18, 2006, 3:56 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: gullwing19 It's by their grace that we're allowed to climb there in the first place. Uhh...ya, by their grace. Gotta love Utah. I don't climb in LCC, but I don't see why this is any different from any other place that is privately owned that allows you to climb. Anyone ever been to a place on private property where the landowner lets you climb? It's by their "grace" (although I might have chosen a different word). I don't know anything about the situation in LCC, but don't bash the mormon church for letting climbers climb on their land. They own it, as much as I hate to admit it.
I thought the use of "grace" was more of an attempt at irony rather than self righteousness. If you read it from the ironic standpoint it's funny.
In reply to: wonder how the mor(m)ons got the land in the first place. I'm sure they must have compensated the native utes in some fashion(massacre, disease, humiliation) for the land. It appears to me that this brand of gods representatives destroyed a true temple of god to create one that would suit the needs of those who are whipped by idolatry. WARNING! My opinion may be influenced by historical perspective.
It seems this person justifies their bigotry with weak evidence. Tell me that the land you live on wasn't once Indian territory and that you've never enjoyed using land that wasn't taken from indigenous people. More appropriately, show me where Little Cottonwood was a ceremonial center for the Utes and how the Mormons poisoned them to get the land.
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krusher4
Jan 18, 2006, 4:11 PM
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All joking aside. I grew up in SLC and visit a few times a year. It really would be very sad if "they" destroyed any more rock or closed more land. It truly is a great place to climb.
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sidepull
Jan 18, 2006, 4:19 PM
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On second thought, how did the OP come to this conclusion? The original post is so out-dated it's ridiculous. New, equally ignorant/anachronistic thread titles that should also be considered as events that are happening now:
Hueco Tanks Doomed!
All Fontainbleau Climbs Chipped?
Joshua Tree Falling into Pacific Ocean
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jasonslc
Jan 18, 2006, 4:21 PM
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In reply to: JasonSLC, It sounds like YOU had just as much to do with all that internet BS as the gullwing19 character did. Calling him an embarassment sort of reflects the same on you dont' you think? Why don't you both just simmer down and play nice?
Good advice. Tell that to bigot boy gullwing19 (or to yourself HAHAHA). I'm just calling BS on a loud mouth who spews nothing but BS. Prime example:
http://www.rockclimbing.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1277859#1277859
The jackass bashes the OP. Then 7 other posters go on to provide useful info, including this:
In reply to: Snowshoes are a respected form of travel here on rockclimbing.com. You came to the right place! And I'm loving my Atlas snowshoes!
Sorry, only one embarassment here ---> gullwing19. Idiots like that who don't know what they're talking about should just SHUT THE FUKK UP.
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sidepull
Jan 18, 2006, 5:03 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: JasonSLC, It sounds like YOU had just as much to do with all that internet BS as the gullwing19 character did. Calling him an embarassment sort of reflects the same on you dont' you think? Why don't you both just simmer down and play nice? Good advice. Tell that to bigot boy gullwing19 (or to yourself HAHAHA). I'm just calling BS on a loud mouth who spews nothing but BS.
I have to agree with sirC. Although you do call BS (which is appreciated), you then proceed to spew your own as well (see below for a mild example):
In reply to: Sorry, only one embarassment here ---> gullwing19. Idiots like that who don't know what they're talking about should just SHUT THE FUKK UP.
THAT is embarrassing. It should never have come to that regarding a critique of a TR pic and there's no reason to introduce it here.
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Jan 18, 2006, 5:19 PM
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In reply to: In reply to: In reply to: JasonSLC, It sounds like YOU had just as much to do with all that internet BS as the gullwing19 character did. Calling him an embarassment sort of reflects the same on you dont' you think? Why don't you both just simmer down and play nice? Good advice. Tell that to bigot boy gullwing19 (or to yourself HAHAHA). I'm just calling BS on a loud mouth who spews nothing but BS. I have to agree with sirC. Although you do call BS (which is appreciated), you then proceed to spew your own as well (see below for a mild example): In reply to: Sorry, only one embarassment here ---> gullwing19. Idiots like that who don't know what they're talking about should just SHUT THE FUKK UP.THAT is embarrassing. It should never have come to that regarding a critique of a TR pic and there's no reason to introduce it here. |
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