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claudianla
Aug 29, 2006, 4:48 AM
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You guys win. I don't care to climb anymore. Some of you guys have been nothing more than rude to me , and you guys don't even know me or meet me,
Yahoo group has been more helpful than anyone in here.
I join this site because I was told that the community was very close to eachother and that most of the climbers like helping eachother, specially as someone help them when they started out, but that has not been the case for me, I'm happy for those that had a better experince than myself.
My Advice to people. when posting looking for climbing partners , explain that you aren't welling to help out those that are learning and you are only looking for partners that are at your level. that will help those like myself that are just starting out.
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dingus
Aug 29, 2006, 4:58 AM
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Invite one of your club mates on a climb. Initiate in other words. Climbing with strangers is tougn and some are better at it than others. But if you start with people you know and nicely pester them to go climbing, show enthusiasm and initiative, they'll come around.
Most long time climbers go through many regular partners. For some its an on going challenge their whole career, to find suitable partners. Some experienced partners are all-encompassing and accepting, others extremely picky. The picky kinds don't climb with noobs for climbing's sake alone...
I've helped bring a few folks into the sport I guess, in a manner of speaking. Its almost like farming for partners. Surely some of the more experienced climbers in your club are the same.
The turning point I always noted with every noob, the point with I stopped thinking of them as a trainee and started thinking of them as a partner, was when I stopped having to call them to see if they wanted to go climbing. I stopped having to always think of all their needs as well as my own.
They started calling me, inviting me on climbs. They became climbers.
DMT
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cosmiccragsman
Aug 29, 2006, 5:09 AM
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Claudianla;
I've replied to your posts a couple of times to go climbing,
with me and a few friends, and you have never taken us up on the offer.
I believe your answer was, that you just wanted to climb at Stoney
Point. Stoney Point is just an area that people go to for a couple of hours,
and climb after work, or when you can't get out of town.
You say you want to learn trad? Stoney point isn't the best place for that.
When I invited you to climb with some of my friends and I out at JTree
You pretty much told me you'd get a hold of me at a later date.
I'm still waiting :)
Or, did you think I was one of those flakes you talked about in this post?
The invite is still open, and a couple of my friends that you would be climbing with, happens to live near Stoney. And, they definitely are not flakey. :D
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majid_sabet
Aug 29, 2006, 5:17 AM
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Well
we post 18 times a day and climb once a month and even then we can't even do 5.7 gym climbing
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sbaclimber
Aug 29, 2006, 5:19 AM
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In reply to: Well we post 18 times a day and climb once a month and even then we can't even do 5.7 gym climbing
Should "we" be a bit worried about your mental health there Majid!? :wink:
VVVVV Edit, never mind :oops:
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cosmiccragsman
Aug 29, 2006, 5:21 AM
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Probably Majid, the reason I can't do a 5.7 gym climb is, I don't go to gyms. I like Real Rock better. :)
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cosmiccragsman
Aug 29, 2006, 5:23 AM
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Good post Dingus!
Trophy for you. :)
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cosmiccragsman
Aug 29, 2006, 5:24 AM
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Deleted because of double post
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gunksgoer
Aug 29, 2006, 6:38 AM
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Did anyone read the article in climbing recently where the author partnered up with "Sarge"? Its highly recomended, and if you read it youll see why my mind jumped to it just now.
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sumo
Aug 29, 2006, 6:57 AM
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In reply to: Good post Dingus! Trophy for you. Smile Cosmiccragsman
Agreed
One of your better posts (sorry no trophys today)
My 3 bits of advice for finding partners
1. Always start off climbing at levels you feel really comfortable at, until you trust your partner and develop a rythem / communication system
2. Small talk on the car ride is sometimes hard. On one 9 hr round trip I ran out of insightful things to say or ask.
3. Most people who say they climb 5.X hanged on it once in the gym, that one summer, during the best shapre of their life... but the day you actually climb it will have been a little while...
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tgreene
Aug 29, 2006, 12:57 PM
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I've recently climbed a couple of times with a self proclaimed "experienced climber" that also claimed to be a 5.11/12 climber... I think what he really meant, was 5.1.1 or 5.1.2 when it gets right down to it. :wink:
When cleaning sport routes, he'll frequently forget to unclip/clean and begins climbing past the bolts, then has to downclimb to correct himself. I've let him lead some very easy 5.6/7 slabs, and he does fine there, and can build a semi-decent tree anchor, but his belaying techniques are sketchy at best.
This thing is though, he's all heart, freakin loves to climb, and is ALWAYS ready at the drop of a hat, so we're considering him a n00bish n00b and trying to drive the basics home, to which he actually responds very favorably.
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bill413
Aug 29, 2006, 2:04 PM
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In reply to: Invite one of your club mates on a climb. Initiate in other words. Climbing with strangers is tougn and some are better at it than others. But if you start with people you know and nicely pester them to go climbing, show enthusiasm and initiative, they'll come around. Most long time climbers go through many regular partners. For some its an on going challenge their whole career, to find suitable partners. Some experienced partners are all-encompassing and accepting, others extremely picky. The picky kinds don't climb with noobs for climbing's sake alone... I've helped bring a few folks into the sport I guess, in a manner of speaking. Its almost like farming for partners. Surely some of the more experienced climbers in your club are the same. The turning point I always noted with every noob, the point with I stopped thinking of them as a trainee and started thinking of them as a partner, was when I stopped having to call them to see if they wanted to go climbing. I stopped having to always think of all their needs as well as my own. They started calling me, inviting me on climbs. They became climbers. DMT
I know you've said this before, in other threads, in various ways. Still, it deserves (yet another) trophy.
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kman
Aug 29, 2006, 2:09 PM
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I have climbed with alot of people from this site. I don't recall ever meeting up with anyone "flaky" off of RC.com.
I have exchanged emails with many people that I have yet to meet. For whatever reason it does not always work out. Either I am away at work or they are or whatever. Keep posting looking for partners and be open to going to different areas. Not everyone wants to climb at the same ol' place all the time.
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justthemaid
Aug 29, 2006, 2:19 PM
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Um- Claudia. I'm afraid I'm going to have to call you out on this one as well.
I have always responded to your PM's with invites to climb, and have never heard a response. You know I'm almost always at Stony mid-week. My offer still stands. You can join us any time, and I would gladly give you a belay.
It helps to really take the initiative and return messages even if you can't come. Most climbers aren't exactly chomping at the bit to climb with the noob.
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svilnit
Aug 29, 2006, 2:22 PM
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hmmm.... so who is the flaky one now? :lol:
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cosmiccragsman
Aug 29, 2006, 3:09 PM
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^^^^^^^^
Justthemaid is a good climber. You could learn a lot from her, Claudianla :D
She is the one, I would have introduced you to.
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mcfoley
Aug 29, 2006, 3:19 PM
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So Claudia...it sounds like you are the "flake" afterall.
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cosmiccragsman
Aug 29, 2006, 3:34 PM
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Hey Mcfoley;
Let's not be too hard on her.
She's still new around here. :)
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dingus
Aug 29, 2006, 3:50 PM
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In reply to: Agreed One of your better posts
Well GEE! THANKS!
(reworded - not your usual drivel...)
Now I know why Jimmy Buffet quit writing good songs.
DMT
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nthusiastj
Aug 29, 2006, 4:38 PM
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I'm not flaky!!!!!!
it's a skin condition....
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justthemaid
Aug 29, 2006, 8:54 PM
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In reply to: ....This thing is though, he's all heart, freakin loves to climb, and is ALWAYS ready at the drop of a hat, so we're considering him a n00bish n00b and trying to drive the basics home, to which he actually responds very favorably.
Just read this post a little more carefully, and Tim makes a good point.
Enthusiasm goes a long way with some people. Don't wait for people to call you...call them. Show up (on time). Have all your gear. Listen to advice, and don't pass up opportunities to climb because there is some driving involved.
I'm really not trying to flame here because I have actually run into my share of "flakes" on this website as well, so I can sympathize. (I think it's a LA thing)
It's annoying, but you do have to be proactive and bug people sometimes.
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musicman
Aug 29, 2006, 9:08 PM
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In reply to: Did anyone read the article in climbing recently where the author partnered up with "Sarge"? Its highly recomended, and if you read it youll see why my mind jumped to it just now.
read it, loved it. anyway, i've never really had that problem with flaky partners, i guess it happened once, but that person is always flaky. climbing partners are serious, i mean, your'e life is literally in their hands at times, it's nothing to take lightly. Sure, climbing is great, fun, and full of laughing most the time, but the underlying fact is that it is quite potentially dangerous. anyway, that's no excuse, if i lived in southern cali i'd love to meet up with you, if you're ever up in northern utah give me a ring.
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billcoe_
Aug 29, 2006, 10:42 PM
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You should consider yourself fortunate for cosmiccragman claudinla. Many of us have gotten tired of training begineers and just flat refuse to climb with anyone who has less than 3 years under their belt unless they are seriously gifted.
Your choice is to stay lower to the ground and struture training days while forgoing harder and longer climbs as the nob ages and matures and learns.
Why wonder what will happen to your partner 6 pitches up if the shit hits the fan on your lead? Better you take a class and learn.
Partners will come easier too.
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zeke_sf
Aug 29, 2006, 11:02 PM
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In reply to: Enthusiasm goes a long way with some people. Don't wait for people to call you...call them. Show up (on time). Have all your gear. Listen to advice, and don't pass up opportunities to climb because there is some driving involved.
I've been that enthusiastic guy lately, bugging people to climb and I've consistently found good partners off this site. Almost all of them have been better climbers than I, and my climbing has definitely improved because of the experience.
Don't be the person who just talks about it. Be about it. I've plenty of old partners who sure like the idea of climbing, but then you have to hold their hand and breast feed them before they'll actually go out climbing. It's a pain in the nipple is what it is.
Cosmic and the maid sound like they have a good scene going on. Believe me, you should hook up with a good thing when you find it. Enjoy the ride and take what the rest of us have to say with a grain of salt :)
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dynoho
Aug 29, 2006, 11:03 PM
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gunksgoer wrote:
Did anyone read the article in climbing recently where the author partnered up with "Sarge"? Its highly recomended, and if you read it youll see why my mind jumped to it just now.
Hysterical article, I want to climb with that guy (Sarge), single pitch (with walk off)....
Claudia, in general, LA residents are flakes, climbers are not. So, the pressure is on, Boxsprings this weekend, Holcomb Valley next weekend. To everyone else, be nice to her, she is a sweet girl, trolling for partners, new to the site; no need to flame.
-Jeff
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