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pornstarr
Jan 16, 2007, 1:26 AM
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what was the question again????
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teleguitar4
Jan 16, 2007, 1:37 AM
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In reply to: Every time you get hi, you kill 8 million un replaceable brain cell, give it 10-15 year you see how it goes.
that is completely incorrect. The only drugs that kill brain cells is heroin and alcohol. The one downside of pot is that it has about 4 times as much tar per puff than cigs, but very rarely do people smoke pot as often as regular ciggarette smokers.
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sjm915
Jan 16, 2007, 3:35 AM
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dpinto15 wrote: When i used to blaze, i tried to climb and couldn't for the life of me. My friend though climbs harder when he is high. It is all relative. For some people they climb better, others just sit around. If you think you climb better, do it, but for me i just cant
Its all about the bud you smoke.
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climbinganne
Jan 16, 2007, 6:09 AM
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i tend to look at it as i do the "mpg" thing in a vehicle.
premium isn't always the way to go. in fact, many times its simply a waste of cash. taste is everything, it would seem....
a little homie, a little pbr.....
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sjm915
Jan 16, 2007, 6:31 AM
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climbinganne wrote: i tend to look at it as i do the "mpg" thing in a vehicle. premium isn't always the way to go. in fact, many times its simply a waste of cash. taste is everything, it would seem.... a little homie, a little pbr.....
Ya true, but if you want your car to run better or want to get the most performance... Premium is the way to go
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spoon
Jan 16, 2007, 6:34 AM
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If you really think that weed is the solution to your stress problems then try not smoking weed. I'm serious. I'm not judgemental about smoking...at all. But try not smoking for 4 weeks. I mean it, 4 whole weeks, and you will be amazed at the results. Turns out that being stressed, paranoid, sleeping poorly, they are all symptoms of withdrawel. If that doesn't do it though, stick with what works.
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miademus
Jan 16, 2007, 10:46 AM
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akhehehehekhehe...
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ajkclay
Jan 16, 2007, 11:10 PM
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worldonastrng wrote: New study says thats not true...that "fact" of yours is about 40 years old... Hardly new, unless there's been another one recently that I have not heard about. There was a study done at Harvard in 2001, I think, that de-bunked that one. Edit : Found it http://www.hno.harvard.edu/...10.11/marijuana.html
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If there's one thing I've learned from studying marijuana for more than a decade, it's that proponents and opponents of the drug will put opposite spins on these findings...
As a scientist, I'm struck by how passionately people hold opinions in both directions no matter what the evidence says...
Harrison Pope
Hmmm yes, does not bode well for unbiased discussion here does it?
But I think that the article goes some way towards answering the original question, and it seems to be (granted from one study) that: Use of Marijuana will impede cognition and performance while climbing but that once you quit that impairments will fade... so I guess that covers the part about "Does it matter?"
But then again, the question was also (and probably more) about physical impairment, and not specifically mental... For this we need to look at the effects on cardio-pulmonary function... I think there has been evidence produced to suggest that smoking pot does indeed have a negative effect on both, however I am unable to produce any citations... anybody got some handy?
Adam
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deadhorse
Jan 27, 2007, 11:38 PM
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god i'm so high right now.
as for the OP; obviously the lungs are getting the brunt of the abuse w/ weed, but like he said- a BONG. bongs take a significant amount of tar and other chemicals out of the smoke.
I think bouldering TR and sport = good for being high. trad = bad for being high.
I am worried enough when i'm placing pro that i'm overlooking some factor of its placement, and the consequences in trad are just so damn high that i think it'd be a little worse than the others.
I, too, have alot of buds that climb better high. i think it would help me with dealing with runout, and lactic acid pain.
and for all you health nuts- ever hit a vape?? [vaporizer] they deliver all of the THC with no smoke or tar, so it's even less detrimental. put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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reno
Jan 28, 2007, 9:59 PM
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In reply to: other than the obvious lung damage, drinking is far worse for your fitness and training than smoking pot since it stunts the production of HGH
Where's the eye rolling smiley when you need it?
In reply to: There are actually studies that say marijuana helps promote cell growth in the brain, or neurogenesis (the process by which the brain gives birth to new nerve cells)..
At the risk of repeating myself, where's the eye rolling smiley.... ?
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radtrad
Jan 28, 2007, 11:01 PM
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there are too many opinions of this to have a concrete rules for it. you just need to understand the very basic and form your opinion from there.
- do you want your belayer to be baked?
- do you trust your pro when high?
is smoke bad for you lungs? yes, absolutely
is eating brownies that bad?
i think it really varies from person to person
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ihategrigris
Jan 28, 2007, 11:12 PM
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sjm915 wrote: climbinganne wrote: i tend to look at it as i do the "mpg" thing in a vehicle. premium isn't always the way to go. in fact, many times its simply a waste of cash. taste is everything, it would seem.... a little homie, a little pbr..... Ya true, but if you want your car to run better or want to get the most performance... Premium is the way to go
Bull.... premium is only useful in vehicles designed for premium. Premium is more resistant to detonation, so in a high compression vehicles (high end sports car type) regular will pre-detonate, reducing performance, premium will not.
In a regular car, regular gas generally does not pre-detonate. Buying premium only hurts your wallet, and does not add anything to performance.
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ajkclay
Jan 28, 2007, 11:57 PM
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majid_sabet wrote: Every time you get hi, you kill 8 million un replaceable brain cell
In that case I'll never say hello to another friend... only folks I don't like.
Adam
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dbrian56
Jan 29, 2007, 12:01 AM
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Treat yourself! Why not after pwning that 5.10?
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chazc
Jan 29, 2007, 12:50 AM
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rocksports wrote: i personally dont think it hurts your performance, although i wouldnt recomend it to someone whos playing a sport like football or hockey
Not True.....Ahmad Bradshaw who went to my high school and is now the RB at Marshall Univ. did before every high school game and scored at least 4 TD's.....its more like fuel
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bolderer
Jan 29, 2007, 1:41 AM
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two words - Chris Sharma.
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steinersapien
Jan 29, 2007, 3:14 AM
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I wish i could smoke and climb at the same time. i love smokin' and climbin' but when i put them together i forget really important things like locking carabiners and double-backing on my harness.
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chalkeye
Jan 29, 2007, 4:20 AM
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bolderer wrote: two words - Chris Sharma.
even if i could climb like that, if i ever saw a video of myself trying to predict the weather with candle wax, i'd have to kick my own ass.
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sdbum
Jan 29, 2007, 5:42 AM
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i usually climb harder after smoking a couple bowls, but i don't have as much stamana
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jimo
Jan 29, 2007, 12:13 PM
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hey, leave sharma out of this- at least he wasn't talking to the wax...
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boulderer420
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Personally, I don't feel like ganja effects me nearly as much physically as it does mentally in regards to actual climbing that is. I've come to notice that if I'm on a climb anywhere near my limit (pretty much anything past the .10's) I find myself getting unusually scared and unsure of myself. Physically I feel like the ganj relaxes muscles and calms me down quite a bit (I tend to get a bit jittery when I see rock I plan to conquer) but all in all I don't think dank is very detrimental to climbing. But like its been said already to each his own, some people thrive on the stuff and some people freak out when they're on it. Now climbing in the gym a bit toasty is an absolute must for me....it seems to be pretty much the only way I can get even the slightest bit focused in there.
Just my .02
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amikros
Feb 1, 2007, 11:21 PM
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wait...what...seriously?
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stymingersfink
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for 12 years I partook on a (mostly) multiple times a day basis.
It was a pre-activity activity, in that I would smoke and then take my dogs on a hike, do some yard work, climb, whatever it was that I needed to do. It has never been a pre-non-activity activity, by which I mean I always had to be doing something after smoking.
Since receiving a mandate 14 months ago to cease and desist, I have noticed my activity level has suffered a subsequent drop-off. I wonder if it has to do with my age (early to mid 30's), or if my previous activity level had anything to do with my consumption patterns. I have noticed a decrease in questionable memory issues, not that they ever really bothered me before as afterall not every memory is worth the time spent to relive it.
Did I ever notice a difference in performance?
You betcha! But was it just my perception at the time? I don't think so. In my experience, it affects one's perception of the flow of time, pain, problem solving, etc. which once one learns to manage to their benefit can be a powerful thing.
Would I smoke again given the freedom to do so? Damn Straight!
Would I smoke as much as I have in the past?
Probably not....
at first.
YMMV, don't try this at home, kids.
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kyote321
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i tend to be more agressive if i don't smoke. better for climbing to not smoke? i would say yes. however, it can be good for the second day on, drive home, etc.
does it matter? - only as much as climbing matters - and if you haven't figured out that it doesn't, then you need to smoke more.
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